Official live CD with multiple songs combined into a single track

Hello,

I have an official live CD with 6 tracks per its cardboard sleeve, but the CD contains one long continuous track with no separation. The tracklist field was originally submitted as if each track was separated. Ex. 1. Luminol
2. Postcard
I submitted an edit to change this to:
1-1 Luminol
1-2 Postcard

There was nothing in MusicBrainz’s docs that covers a case like this. The closest thing I found was regarding classical albums that list separate tracks on the case but are combined as a single suite on the CD. What is the correct method for a case like this? The release in question is Steven Wilson - Weekender 221113.

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The release should be one track only, like this: STEVEN WILSON / Weekender 11/22/15 (not the same live, different date).
Then you can type each title separated by space slash space: “Title 1 / Title 2 / Title 3 / …”

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Approved the change. Notice that by entering this as separate tracks, it for example would have made it impossible to submit a Disc ID :slight_smile:

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I don’t think Live at Wangels, Germany November 22, 2015: should be part of the track title, though. It isn’t on the album art that way. That info should be in relationships, shouldn’t it?

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It is not unheard of to do that, but it makes more sense to leave just the track list.

I added the more normal way of doing this - add a disambiguation, and the relationship.

Personally I make use of these disambigs in Picard and add them to track names to get:
Luminol / Postcard / The Holy Drinker / Drive Home / The Watchmaker / Radioactive Toy (live, 2015-11-22: Wangels, Germany)

Best of both then. A pure track list, but also location tagged into the track names via Picard.

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Thanks all for the help. I was finally able to add the Disc ID with the corrected tracklist. If the consensus is to remove the Live at Wangels, Germany November 22, 2015:, then I agree it should be changed. The disambiguation and relationship certainly do help.

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Now you can go to the Disc IDs tab and click the Set track durations link.

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This got reverted, so I am reverting the reversion. Unfortunately, this means the disc ID is no longer attached (because the medium got deleted) – is there any way to re-attach it without actually having the disc? (The ID itself is still visible in the edit history.)

I also wondered if it makes sense to have a pseudo-release with the tracks split up, since I can see why some people would prefer to have the release that way in their libraries (and the recordings exist now). The documentation for pseudo-releases only refers to transliterations, though, so I am not sure if this would be a valid use case – I at least thought I should get a second opinion first.

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Unfortunately the edit adding the disc ID at Edit #92820693 - MusicBrainz does not show the TOC details and hence it is not possible to recreate the edit. As the disc ID seems to be no longer in the database I fear there is no way to add the disc ID again without access to the disc itself (or at least some ripping log or other log of the TOC).

It might be good if the edit history would record also the TOC added, and not just the disc ID calculated from it.

Here you go:
https://musicbrainz.org/edit/117545633

For reference how to restore:

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That’s so cool, thanks for sharing and restoring. I actually didn’t know about the raw edit data being available in the UI.

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Since there were no objections, I added the pseudo-release: Release “Weekender 221113” by Steven Wilson - MusicBrainz
Hopefully this should make it less likely that the actual release gets edited to split up the tracks again.

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