How to differenciate "Recordist" and "Recording Engineer" credit

I just encounter a release that clearly has “Recordist” and “Recording Engineer” separately in the booklet.


As I understand, “recording engineer (for)” is currently the only relationship about recording position in both recording-artist and release-artist relationships, is it possible to differentiate the two credits?

I did some search here and it seems there used to be a “recorded by” credit type but now discarded.

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It might refer to Tonmeister:
https://musicbrainz.org/relationship/97169e5e-c978-486e-a5ea-da353ca9ea42

Alice went to the University of Surrey to study the prestigious Tonmeister degree.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/alice-bennett-707393181

University of Surrey
Music and Sound Recording (Tonmeister), Recording Engineer
2015 - 2019

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Hmm Thanks for the info, I can understand this might point to what this person specialized in. But I’m not sure if it’s right to guess one’s role in a specific release from one’s degree, after all it’s totally possible for someone having a Tonmeister degree to play other role in production.

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It might also indicate she was second engineer since Rupert seems more experienced plus:
https://musicbrainz.org/relationship-attribute/8c4196b1-7053-4b16-921a-f22b2898ed44

[…] This is usually secondary, or additional to the work done by the mix engineer. […]

In any event, the involved parties should be able to clarify her role.

FWIW, Qobuz and Tidal credit her as “Asst. Recording Engineer”

For those wondering, it’s this release:

I’ll disengage from this topic and just leave a list of what else I found/was looking at:

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2442108
https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/engineer-vs-recordist.271697/
https://community.metabrainz.org/t/questions-about-producer-and-engineer-relationship-types/4175
https://booklets.idagio.com/881488180527.pdf
https://www.dict.cc/?s=Toningenieur+%3B+Toningenieurin+%3B+Tonmeister+%3B+Tonmeisterin
https://www.arpjournal.com/asarpwp/interview-with-dave-fisher/
https://books.google.de/books?id=j1gtBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA14
https://dict.leo.org/forum/viewUnsolvedquery.php?idForum=1&idThread=1376509
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0%E3%83%BB%E3%82%A8%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B8%E3%83%8B%E3%82%A2