Folders on data disc

I am looking at this release at the moment:

It is a CDR with mostly MP3 files plus some videos. There is a Windows EXE file that gives some structure (chapters) when playing the files, and the files themselves are in sub folders following those chapters.

For clarity’s sake it would make sense to have the same structure in the entry here, but is that how we want it in MB? A folder is not a medium per se, but for a data folder I can imagine us using a medium per folder.

(Same as using a medium per stream on a Blu-ray disc, when an album has a stereo version and a 5.1 version on one disc.)

Any thoughts?

I would indeed follow the intended order, even if sometimes, those exe can no longer be run in modern PC.

It’s like following menu order in DVD that are not always playing videos in file order.

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So that entry would become a number of mediums with type Digital Media (since the files are MP3) and the title of the chapter, I assume…

No there is only one medium, a Data CD. :slight_smile:

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I also don’t think these should be handled as separate media. It is more a case of grouping several tracks under a specific heading, something that often would be useful for releases in general. This is similar to how Discogs handles this.

There is a feature request for such track listing sections:

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Or easier to implement, when it’s just for displaying sections in a medium, without all the extra possibilities (relationships, medium overlap, etc.):

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That just adds a header, without an end, so it is as unclear as on Discogs. It does not group anything.

That feature would be very nice indeed. I guess it could be something like nested media.

Check out this 2 albums on 1 CD Homecoming / Hat Trick release capture and mockup:

current situation
current situation


Tracksets “Light”

Is it really a header, without an end (without purpose)? :wink:

For digital downloads I sometimes split mediumsby folder, if the intent is clearly for each folder to be a very separate set of tracks.

Unfortunately for this one I agree that it would be misleading to imply there is more than one CDR - I would leave them together. And give MBS-6680 a vote :smiley:

Exactly, if there is no end then everything falls under that header and it is even more unclear than without. Even misleading / incorrect, I would say.

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I agree. For digital downloads it makes sense a “medium” means “group of files” For any other type it’s confusing.

Maybe just a type (“medium”, “group”) could be enough, but then they can still not be nested, so that would not suffice.

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Ok now I understand what you mean!
But if there are other tracks, we can still have another final header called bonus tracks.

I will check if one of my trackset releases contains such a problematic example, I don’t think so… :wink:

But it’s not always bonus tracks, is it? An album that contains 2 EPs and bonus tracks can have three headers. But on Discogs I’ve seen a lot of headers for a set of three tracks in the middle of the disc without an end to the group. Then silly track numbering is needed.

Not sure if that would be the same group of tracks as the folders on a data disc or streams on a Blu-ray though.

I think nested groups would be the most versatile solution. Medium is the top level, anything else can be used for anything.

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I’m wondering what kind of releases it can be… :thinking:

Oh, I see they changed some things there! I don’t remember it like that.

There are a few different situations I can think of.

This is a good example of one track with multiple parts (track 1 has two parts) within the same track index:
https://www.discogs.com/release/522708-Shadow-Gallery-Legacy

This is an example of where a track has parts that have their own track index:
https://www.discogs.com/release/4508006-Everon-Fantasma

Oh here’s a nice one that has headers and a multi-part track:
https://www.discogs.com/release/14974186-Shadow-Gallery-Tyranny

The headers only work if the last header covers all the remaining tracks so in this case that works.

Sub track indexes are something else.
We keep them in the same track, with multiple title style.

The last example has Act I ending at Act II, and Act II ending at the end of the medium, aren’t they?

Yeah, that’s kind of ugly and unreadable when there are more than 3, to be honest. I usually do not even list sub tracks because of that.

That is correct in this case. I will try and find an example where a heading does not contain all the tracks under it.

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Even if there is such case, we can still put the last tracks after a header called [other tracks], if for some reason bonus tracks is not appropriate.

Eww, that would look very ugly (that’s my opinion). I would opt not to use headers until there is a grouping thing implemented.