A new title in Romaji

[albertok]

Hi….

A question for more expert users:

When you try to insert a new album title in musicbrainz, you have to insert of course title ablum and artist name;

so how about the “translation” in romaji for japanes language?

in other term:
I want to insert a new title, for example:

”Super Robot Theme & Image Song Collection 3”

in japanese it sounds like:
スーパーロボットクロニクルシリーズ スーパーロボット主題歌・挿入歌大全集III

various songs are of course in japanese and I want to insert them in Romaji;

In MB database artist is in japanese language and I want to insert it in Romaji…. is it possible?

So if I insert my title and artist is, for example, “Isao Sasaki” in MB databse is “ささきいさお“ but i want to insert “Isao Sasaki”….

Sorry for my bad english and thank so much for your answers

Here it is a Disc 1 titles table:

Disc 1	title japanese	title Romaji	artist Romaji
1	勇者ライディーン	Yuusha Reideen	Masato Shimon
2	バラオが笑う	Barao ga Warau	Koorogi '73
3	戦え!ライディーン	Tatakae! Reideen	Masato Shimon
4	行こうよ洸	Ikouyo Akira	Masato Shimon, Mitsuko Horie
5	女の子だもの	Onnanoko Damono	Kumiko Oosugi
6	コープランダー隊歌	Coplander Tai Uta	Koorogi '73
7	進め天下のレッド団	Susume Tenka no Red-dan	Koorogi '73
8	神と悪魔	Kami to Akuma	Masato Shimon
9	飛べ! ゴッドバード	Tobe! Godbird	Masato Shimon
10	海よ	Umi yo	Masato Shimon
11	ぼくらの仲間ライディーン	Bokura no Nakama Reideen	Koorogi '73
12	おれは洸だ	Ore wa Akira da	Masato Shimon
13	行くぞ!ゴーダム	Ikuzo! Godam	Ichiro Mizuki
14	ガッツでがんばれ	Guts de Ganbare	Ichiro Mizuki
15	ぼくのひみつ	Boku no Himitsu	Kaoru Fujita
16	ゴワッパー5の歌	Gowapper 5 no Uta	Ichiro Mizuki
17	トライアタック!メカンダーロボ	Try Attack! Mekander Robo	Ichiro Mizuki
18	さすらいの星ジミーオリオン	Sasurai no Hoshi Jimmy Orion	Ichiro Mizuki
19	超常スマッシュ!ギンガイザー	Chojo Smash! Gingaizer	Isao Sasaki
20	さがしに行かないか	Sagashini Ikanaika	Isao Sasaki

[albertok]

I read here:

Romaji and English translated

There is a release with both Japanese and English titled songs. There is a translated version with most of the Japanese titles translated into English, except for the very last one which is in Romaji. I have the full list of tracks in Romaji from a vgmdb.net and the English translated title as well. Should I add the Romaji version as a translation to the original and fix the last track of the English translated one? I know there are some rules about Romaji but I can’t actually read Japanese let…

it is possible to create s sub release “under” official one; so I have to create Official, before sub-romaji I think…

Could you link a steb by step guide to add a pseudo release pls?

Thank so much

[yindesu]

FTR, it’s impossible for a beginner to efficiently submit correct pseudo-releases due to longstanding unresolved bugs like MBS-13936.

In a perfect world, you would:

1. Submit the Japanese/Japanese language/script release first. This creates the release group and recordings with Japanese titles.
2. Submit a Japanese/Latin language/script release, selecting the release from #1 in the “release duplicates” tab to reuse the same MB Recordings, then use the track parser to replace the titles and artists with the romanizations. The problem is that the track parser is unfit for this purpose per MBS-13936.

Instead, the only reliable way to submit a pseudo-release is:

1. Submit the Japanese/Japanese language/script release first. This creates the release group and recordings with Japanese titles.
2. Write your own software application to import the release from #1 using the web service API so you have all the recording MBIDs, then use your own text input field(s) to replace all the track titles and artist credits with the romanizations. This bypasses MBS-13936 and is the only reliable way to submit a pseudo-release that doesn’t have messed up recordings.

What actually happens in practice:

1. Someone makes a Japanese release.
2. Someone else makes a non-Japanese release in a different release group, not using the existing recordings.
3. Someone else (like me) has to monitor MusicBrainz and merge the duplicates.

[Jim_DeLaHunt]

Hello, @albertok . Thank you for contributing to MusicBrainz. I appreciate the effort you are making to learn how to make your contributions high-quality and following the Style Guidelines. Also, thank you for expressing yourself so well in what is a difficult foreign language.

ある程度日本語のできるものですので簡単に答える。

Let me introduce two terms to you:

1. Transliteration is writing the sounds of words in one language or writing system using the spelling of another language or writing system. 「スーパーロボット主題歌・挿入歌大全集III」transliterated into Latin script (English language) is “Suupaa Robotto Sūpārobotto shudaika sōnyū uta taizenshū III”. 「ささきいさお」 transliterated into Latin (English) is “Sasaki Isao”.
2. Translation is expressing the meaning and words of one language into another language. 「スーパーロボット主題歌・挿入歌大全集III」translated into English language is ”Super Robot Theme & Image Song Collection 3”. 「ささきいさお」 translated into Latin (English) is “Isao Sasaki” (note the use of English language name order).

You might find it helpful to read the Style Guidelines for Transliteration, and the Style Guidelines for Japanese language. The latter has guidelines for transliterating Japanese text into Latin (English).

In your “Disc 1” example, the title Romaji column seems to contain transliterations, and the artist Romaji column seems to contain translations (looking at the name order).

MusicBrainz provides two ways to enter transliterations and translations.

1. Aliases. This provide a way to attach a transliterated or translated name, and sort name, to Artists or Releases (or other entities). This is what I use.
2. Pseudo-releases. This is a Release entity which has the release title and track titles transliterated or translated from the original, and it is connected to the original Release entity in the original language via a transliteration/translation Relationship. I do not have experience with pseudo-releases.

There is more I could write, but I hope that helps you make progress for now. Feel free to ask follow-up questions.

And thank you again for your hard work!

[albertok]

HI @yindesu and thank so much for your answer…

For me your numer 2 solution is impossible; I’ve no capacities to write applications…sorry!

think I’ll use no.3 solution; maybe I can paste here the original in japanes and the new one in Romaji?

Thanks to you again

[albertok]

Really thank to you