I have spent the last couple of months looking at this then putting it back on the shelf. I feel I need to take action on this issue. Not knowing the best way to start out I felt droping this on the form and maybe getting feedback was the best way to start fixing the "wrong facts" in Discogs, secondhand songs, BMI, 45cat, and others . This is truly a case of circular links satisfying each other partly due to the lack of information on "Wild Bill Emerson".
Please feel free to add comments or suggestions of any kind, or ask for more information. Sorry for the bad formatting, I do not post much or anything this complex.
There at least three Bill Emerson musician singer/songwriters, with the first two in the list below being combined together as the banjo player Bill Emerson. The third, Billy “The Kid” Emerson looks fine except for 3 ISWCnet entries giving songs to banjo player Bill Emerson that are his, and allmusic album entries.
William Hundley Emerson (Bill Emerson) (banjo), the well known bluegrass banjo player born in Washington D.C.
William M. Emerson (Wild Bill Emerson), country guitar player born in Marion County, Alabama
William R. Emerson (Billy “The Kid” Emerson), R&B/Rock’n’Roll best known for “Move, Baby Move”
William Hundley Emerson
William Hundley Emerson known as Bill Emerson spent most of his time in Virginia, and has always been bluegrass.
Born: 1938-01-22 in Washington, D.C., wife Lola, hair black
In the US Navy from 1973-1993, where he formed the Navy Band Country Current which is the Navy’s premier country-bluegrass ensemble.
Bill Emerson’s late son John was president of Webco Records of Virginia, Acoustigrass Music Publishing and Acoustigrass Entertainment LTD, labels Bill Emerson appears on.
William M. Emerson known as Wild Bill Emerson
William M. Emerson known as Wild Bill Emerson lived in Alabama, Arkansas, Michigan, …, he played with Mack Vickery (and others) in the greater Detroit area.
Discogs wrongly points "Wild Bill Emerson" to "Bill Emerson"
Born: 1938-05-04 in Marion County, Alabama, wife "Martha JO" (Jody, Jodie), hair brown
What have I found that’s wrong?
They have Jody Emerson as Bill Emerson (banjo) wife because there is no Wild Bill Emerson.
They have Wild Bill Emerson as an alias on Bill Emerson (banjo).
They have the "Wild Bill Emerson" works assigned to Bill Emerson (banjo).
Has albums Bull Mountain Lad and Harlen County assigned to Bill Emerson (banjo), the 9 singles listed are all Nashville produced and belong to Wild Bill Emerson. Harlen County was released in 1982 and Bull Mountain Lad was released in 1976, Bill Emerson (banjo) was in the Navy at this time and only released bluegrass albums.
Has Billy “The Kid” Emerson albums Little Healthy Thing and Crazy 'bout Automobiles in with Bill Emerson (banjo), but does not put Wild Bill Emerson in with Bill Emerson (banjo).
RateYourMusic.com appears to have both artists separated.
www.45cat.com has both artists combined.
Amazon appears to have both artists separated, but you can never tell with them.
http://www.ibiblio.org appears to have both artists separated, but on album Harland County says “Instruments:‘Wild’ Bill Emerson-bj; other personnel not known”, Wild Bill Emerson did not play banjo, he was a fantastic guitar player.
Has 4 songs co-written by Wild Bill Emerson & Jody Emerson assigned to Bill Emerson (banjo), Jody never wrote with Bill Emerson (banjo).
Has 7 songs that were written or co-written by Wild Bill Emerson assigned to Bill Emerson (banjo).
Has 3 songs that belong to Billy “The Kid” Emerson assigned to Bill Emerson (banjo) but these do not appear in any other rights databases so maybe no harm.
A News article that combines facts from both artists, just bad journalism, first 2 paragraphs are about Wild Bill Emerson and the last paragraph is about Bill Emerson (banjo).
I am sure there is much more wrong out there.
What I have done so far.
I created artist Wild Bill Emerson and added his last two albums, none of in any database except allmusic and they have it correct. I add Jody as his wife. I added a ticket to second hand songs telling them Jody was not Bill Emerson (banjo) wife, I gave them supporting data.
Two days ago I talked on the phone with Tom Ghent https://musicbrainz.org/artist/a34ce2af-bdf0-43e4-8437-d15911805738 about Wild Bill playing on his album “Yankee’s Rebel Son” and Ghent confirmed who Wild Bill was. I also talked that night to John Kuschell, of the Lenawee County Historical Museum in Adrian, Michigan, who is writing a book on the artists from that area which include Wild Bill Emerson, Mack Vickery, and others. Part of the book is about the migration of Marion County, Alabama people to Adrian and other places around Detroit in the 1950’s for jobs in the auto plants. He is in constant contact with Jody Emerson (Martha Jo Emerson). He gave me Wild Bill’s full name and birthday which I added to his profile.
I created a Discogs account and plan to paste this material there in order to get help with getting things fixed.
A week ago I submitted a notice of error on secondhandsongs to get Jody removed from Bill Emerson (banjo) as his wife, I feel I supplied enough data for that change, nothing has happened so far.
I want to start adding the correct Wild Bill albums and singles to the database even with the other databases assigning them to Bill Emerson (banjo).
This is a big mess which will take time getting rid of the circular links. Luckily none of the Wild Bill Emerson albums or singles are in musicbrainz except for later ones I just added. There are still a couple of works attributed to Bill Emerson (banjo) that belong to Wild Bill Emerson.
What information do I have to support what I have said.
Article pointing out 3 different Bill Emerson’s
http://tomarmstrongmusic.com/?p=245 <<— 3 different emerson’s
BILL EMERSON (banjo)
Bio’s and articles on Bill Emerson (banjo), always support bluegrass of some kind.
Mentions Bill Emerson (janjo)
Good discography page
Jody Emerson as wife of Wild Bill Emerson not Bill Emerson (banjo).
Wild Bill Emerson born in Alabama, Wife "Martha Jo"(Jody), see https://store.cdbaby.com/cd/wbill
Bill Emerson Born in Washington D.C, Wife "Lola", see last line in banjonews https://banjonews.com/2018-03/happy_birthday_bill_emerson!_.html
Also see back art at the bottom of the "Tennessee 1949" album, second to last line, "Lola Emerson". https://coverartarchive.org/release/76267896-63ff-4c4c-83cd-e59ae3f4e91c/20741839448.jpg
See obituary/tribute to Bill Emerson’s son “John Scott Emerson” which mentions his mother Lola.
THE OAK RIDGE BOYS - DIDN’T IT RAIN (video) written by Wild Bill and Jody Emerson
See last song, written by both Wild Bill and Jody, these two wrote many songs together.
WILD BILL EMERSON
Article about Wild Bill show him in the Chicago/Detroit area.
Mack Vickery article with Wild Bill in it. Will Bill was a guitarist for Vickery.
Mentions "Sheba" being written by Wild Bill
Songs written or co-written by Earl Montgomery, includes Wild Bill and Jody.
Wild Bill being a mentor to Paul Thorn
John Anderson song/article mentions Wild Bill.
Playing with John Anderson
Blog with Bob Wilson mentions Wild Bill.
YouTube of Wild Bill doing Harland County, not the voice of Bill Emerson (banjo), and definitely not bluegrass, just pure country.
YouTube of a older Wild Bill singing and playing live, and playing left handed. Not the picture of Bill Emerson (banjo).
Article on Dick Wagner mentions Wild Bill