(voting) Sony Music Labels Inc. is not an imprint

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Voting on a merge edit:
https://musicbrainz.org/edit/59884419

Background:

This is the corporate profile of Sony Music Labels Inc. in Japanese or English.

Sony Music Labels (SML) is a record company… Nine distinctive labels form our business division, including Sony Music Records, SME Records, Ariola Japan, SACRA MUSIC, Epic Records Japan, Epic JYP, Ki/oon Music, Sony Music Associated Records, and Sony Music Japan International

This says Sony Music Labels is not a “label” by virtue of naming nine other things that they do consider to be “labels”.

Digging into the details, we know that the first mentioned “label”, Sony Music Records, is itself not an imprint either. This is the Twitter for Sony Music Records where you can see 8 imprints in their Twitter header, none of which are named “Sony Music Records”. (The 8 imprints from left to right, top to bottom, are Sony Records, gr8! Records, MASTERSIX FOUNDATION, 乃木坂46, Around the World, 欅坂46, 22/7, and 吉本坂46. You can see these imprints at https://musicbrainz.org/label/6bb88a42-87e9-48eb-97a2-4e15aea0929c/relationships.)

The point of this background is for me to claim that “Sony Music Labels Inc.” is not the correct “MusicBrainz release label” for either physical or digital releases from this record company.

I’d be happy to discuss with examples if you object to any of the above.

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Hi yindesu and all.

I felt [yindesu]'s view would be correct.
However, since I do not know the local rule of MusicBrainz, I hesitate the voting act.

So, in Wikipedia, it is recommended to recruit neutral opinions from everyone, but the act of calling everyone to approve of their own edits will inadmonished.
But it may be because Wikipedia’s system reflects edits instantaneously, sometimes conflicting opinions and becoming an intense quarrel.
Prerequisite is different from this place which is approved by voting.

Instead of voting in favor, I will submit a report that supplements that his view is correct.

It became quite long sentences.
Please read if you have interests and leisure.


Because it is a huge conglomerate, it is not easy to grasp the whole.
I will toss a cheap report for our reference.
It may be useful to have a similar report on “Sony Music Entertainment” (perhaps an American company) that I did not investigate.

Company with root authority (1st. generation).

The official financial situation report (written in Japanese) that this company submitted to the Japanese government did not find a list of subsidiaries and sub-subsidiaries and materials that could inquire about mutual up-down relations.

However, I found an interesting statement in the following IR information (English sentences are also described).
see Latest IR Materials ; https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/index.html
==> Supplemental Information (FY2018 Q3 Earnings); https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/er/pdf/18q3_supplement.pdf

p.10 - Music Segment Supplemental Information

  • Sony Music Entertainment
    Travis Scott, Bob Dylan, George Ezra, etc.

  • Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc.
    Nogizaka46, Kenshi Yonezu, Kana Nishino, etc.

From this IR information we have three things to sense.

  1. ‘Bob Dylan’ belongs to “Sony Music Entertainment” (probably the American Company).
  2. Nogizaka46 and Kenshi Yonezu (米津玄師) belong to “Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc.”. <== This is deeply related to the point that is now on the agenda.
  3. “Sony Music Entertainment” and “Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc.” are different companies.

That is what it is.

  • Sony Corporation / ソニー株式会社
    • Sony Music Entertainment <== Not investigated. Not listed below.
    • Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc. = SMEJ / 株式会社ソニー・ミュージックエンタテインメント

The following is the result of investigating only “Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc.” as a 2nd. generation subsidiary.
In other words, please note that “Sony Music Entertainment” should exist as a 2nd. generation subsidiary too.

And another one. The world economy is changing everyday.
I surveyed in Japan date of 2019-03-08.


Subsidiary (2nd. generation).

  • Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc. = SMEJ / 株式会社ソニー・ミュージックエンタテインメント

https://www.sme.co.jp/s/SME/page/company_profile?ima=4204
https://www.sme.co.jp/s/SMEen/page/company_profile?ima=1932
call ownself "Sony Music Entertainment (Japan), or SMEJ and say “Holding Company”(“グループ統括会社”), and “Stockholder: Sony Corporation”( “株主: ソニー株式会社”).

The list of group governance mechanisms released by this 2nd. generation company is as follows.
https://www.sme.co.jp/s/SME/page/company_corporate-group?ima=4542
https://www.sme.co.jp/s/SMEen/page/company_corporate-group?ima=2003

  • Holding Company / グループ統括会社

    • Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc. = SMEJ / 株式会社ソニー・ミュージックエンタテインメント
  • Music & Artist Business Group / ミュージック&アーティストビジネスグループ

    • Sony Music Labels Inc. = SML / 株式会社ソニー・ミュージックレーベルズ
    • Sony Music Direct Inc. / 株式会社ソニー・ミュージックダイレクト
    • Sony Music Artists Inc. / 株式会社ソニー・ミュージックアーティスツ
    • Music Ray’n Inc. / 株式会社ミュージックレイン
    • Sony Music Publishing (Japan) Inc. / 株式会社ソニー・ミュージックパブリッシング
  • Visual & Character Business Group / ビジュアル&キャラクタービジネスグループ

    • Aniplex Inc. / 株式会社アニプレックス
      • A-1 Pictures Inc. / 株式会社A-1 Pictures
      • CloverWorks Inc. / 株式会社CloverWorks
      • Quatro A Inc. / 株式会社Quatro A
      • Aniplex of America Inc. / Aniplex of America Inc.
      • Rialto Entertainment Inc. / 株式会社リアルト・エンタテインメント
    • Sony Creative Products Inc. / 株式会社ソニー・クリエイティブプロダクツ
  • Entertainment Solution Business Group / エンタテインメントソリューションビジネスグループ

    • Sony Music Marketing Inc. / 株式会社ソニー・ミュージックマーケティング
    • Sony Music Communications Inc. / 株式会社ソニー・ミュージックコミュニケーションズ
    • Sony DADC Japan Inc. / 株式会社ソニーDADCジャパン
    • Jared Inc. / 株式会社ジャレード
    • M-ON! Entertainment Inc. / 株式会社エムオン・エンタテインメント
    • Solasia Entertainment Inc. / 株式会社ソラシア・エンタテインメント
    • Label Gate Co., Ltd. / 株式会社レーベルゲート
    • Zepp Hall Network Inc. / 株式会社Zeppホールネットワーク
  • Group Shared Service / グループシェアードサービス

    • Sony Music Axis Inc. / 株式会社ソニー・ミュージックアクシス

Subsidiary of subsidiary (3rd. generation)

  • Sony Music Labels Inc. = SML / 株式会社ソニー・ミュージックレーベルズ

https://www.sme.co.jp/s/SMEen/company/SML?ima=2831
https://www.sme.co.jp/s/SME/company/SML?ima=3041
call ownself “Sony Music Labels (SML)” and say “Music & Artist Business Group” (“ミュージック&アーティストビジネスグループ” ) and “Stockholder Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc. 100%”(“株主 株式会社ソニー・ミュージックエンタテインメント 100%”).

Subsidiary of a subsidiary of a subsidiary (4th. generation) // add Strikethrough 2019-03-08 13:55(JST)

Nine distinctive labels …

  1. Sony Music Records / ソニー・ミュージックレコーズ
  2. SME Records / エスエムイーレコーズ
  3. Ariola Japan/ アリオラジャパン // Amendment 2019-03-08 11:03(JST)
  4. SACRA MUSIC/ SACRA MUSIC // Amendment 2019-03-08 11:03(JST)
  5. Epic Records Japan/ エピックレコードジャパン
  6. Epic JYP/ Epic JYP
  7. Ki/oon Music/ キューンミュージック
  8. Sony Music Associated Records/ ソニー・ミュージックアソシエイテッドレコーズ
  9. Sony Music Japan International/ ソニー・ミュージックジャパンインターナショナル

Perhaps, these companies may each have a subsidiary?
(Equivalent to the 5th. generation).

thankyou long your times.


Append the following article // 2019-03-08 13:55(JST)

Sorry, My report say “4th. generation” was may missing.
Nine distinctive labels are not Subsidiary of Sony Music Labels Inc.
Nine distinctive labels may are Sony Music Labels Inc’s 事業部門(Business sector).

Testimony 1.
https://www.sme.co.jp/s/SME/pressrelease/list?cd=news has not Nine distinctive labels.
But listed “ソニー・ミュージックレーベルズ”(Sony Music Labels Inc.).

Testimony 2.
https://www.sme.co.jp/s/SME/pressrelease/detail/INFO00073

1) 株式会社ソニー・ミュージックレコーズ(本社:東京都千代田区、代表取締役 村松俊亮)は、株式会社エスエムイーレコーズ、株式会社ソニー・ミュージックアソシエイテッドレコーズ、株式会社エピックレコードジャパン、株式会社デフスターレコーズ、株式会社アリオラジャパン、株式会社キューンミュージック、株式会社ソニー・ミュージックジャパンインターナショナルの 7 社を 2014 年 4 月 1 日に吸収合併の方法により統合し、新商号を「株式会社ソニー・ミュージックレーベルズ」(英文表記:Sony Music Labels Inc.)とする。

It say, “7 companies will be integrated on April 1, 2014 by the method of absorption merger, and the new company name will be “Sony Music Labels Inc.” (English notation: Sony Music Labels Inc.).”


Append the following article // 2019-03-08 13:00(JST)

Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc./ 株式会社ソニー・ミュージックエンタテインメント

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