Requests for Votes Thread

Seems to be via website. They usually have some link, at least, but not always. Many are hdtracks. But once entered a CD with full details, then tried to change it to Digital Media. ???

New today:
https://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/64408192
https://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/64408235
https://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/64408249
https://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/64408262
https://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/64408324
https://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/64408348
https://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/64408374

And they’re still going. Somebody please stop them.

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There is tons of abuse of the MB database that is like this. And no mechanism to slow these people down. It gets depressing.

Have you reported the user? That is the only mechanism we have, but that assumes they will listen to Freso. :frowning: I only half looked at that user’s history, but couldn’t see a single note.

IMHO situations like this require some kind of PAUSE to be applied to their edits to force them to acknowledge the situation.

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There are a few notes, mostly on their downvoted edits. I left a nice one yesterday and a firmer one today. I think they’re French so maybe @Fabe56’s bilingual comment will get more attention.

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Thanks to everyone who’s looked at this. I honestly didn’t know where else to mention/report it, but couldn’t help help feeling that it was going against what everyone else has tried to do.

I noted too that from what I looked at that everything added appeared to be exclusively Digital Media all referencing the same sources. If I’m being honest it made me wonder if it was someone adding edits on behalf of those sources.

I’m also unsure if things are confined to adding releases. I believe quite a few edits to language have been made too, and while I didn’t look at too many, some could be questionable.

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I accidentally added a release with mixed up tracklist from a bootleg https://www.discogs.com/Elton-John-Diamonds/release/12531086 in the same release group https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/5dc32bc2-f734-4cff-b9c5-f9594d785148 and added discID. To correct the tracklist I need some votes on the remove discID https://musicbrainz.org/edit/64484938
Thanks.

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Can someone clean up my “click the wrong button” daftness please?

In attempting to correct two different Singles and the live tracks they point to. There were errors in the tracks linked, and when I attempted to correct things I then made a couple of daft typos \ wrong selections that now make it look even weirder. :smiley:

If I can get these ones pushed through, then the rest will be sane and easier to vote on/understand.

Thanks
https://musicbrainz.org/edit/64505884
https://musicbrainz.org/edit/64505622

Thanks @chaban

Help or correction needed, an easy one:


The above release was already present with DiscID:s. I just added

but the CD 3 timings went bad when adding through Picard 2.2.2 . (1st use after update, it matched only CD 3 to the old release and I prompted for the newly added release.)

https://musicbrainz.org/cdtoc/cNck4JEnCmR_0MV3_noyXQIRkdg- is now added to both releases (differing in some sectors only), and the edit log has no “Set track lengths” for CD 3:

Edit #64529961 - Add disc ID (CD 3)
Edit #64529935 - Add disc ID (CD 2)
Edit #64529934 - Set track lengths (CD 2)
Edit #64529841 - Add disc ID (CD 1)
Edit #64529840 - Set track lengths (CD 1)

I presuppose own fault, but then Picard 2.2.2 is also acting funny, f.i. when scanning for AcoustID:s, matched files dragged to right hand window have no preview whereas “empty” lines in that same window have preview data from whatever release at hand.

An editor added a cover image to a release they added, yet another editor is voting the edit down for reasons unrelated to that particular edit:
https://musicbrainz.org/edit/64565689

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Silent no-votes (and no response yet) on cover art adds:
edit #64413611
edit #64413613
edit #64413614
edit #64413617
edit #64413625

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An editor I’ve been following for a while has added yet another release of dubious origin. I have attempted to load the page to remove the release multiple times, but every time I get a 504.
I’m making this post in the hopes that someone else will have better luck than me and be able to remove the release. (I already reported the editor for this behavior; this release was the last straw.)
Click at your own risk.

Success. Just did go straight to delete page:
https://musicbrainz.org/release/4b443cf1-e879-4472-b632-402150ea5e9a/delete

Edit #64673927

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Is there a list of “approved” digital stores? When I saw https://www.music-bazaar.mobi/ pop-up in those edits I assumed it was just another MP3 store. This one just seems to be Russian, but has been there since 2009.

I took a look, and am leery about it.
Individual songs were being offered for obscenely low prices (such as €0.12 and €0.25). Compare that to something like https://music.apple.com/de/album/led-zeppelin-iv-remastered/580708175, where individual tracks are offered for 1,29€. There’s no way in hell any music rights organization would be OK letting a retailer charge that little.

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Yet there are all manner of bootlegs and weird digital collections here at MB. So it puzzles me why that one site would be banned. I agree that these releases are messy and clearly not official, but they exist even though we may not approve of them.

I’m not opposed to adding each release as shown on that site, but that particular release was a composite of several.

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A while ago I brought that store up on IRC:

<chaban> [off] I’m not convinced this site is legally selling bootlegs (and other stuff): Edit #63923264 - MusicBrainz But maybe I’m missing something
<yvanzo> [off] chaban: seems legal to me
<ZaphodBeeblebrox> [off] but I wouldn’t cosither 30 seconds as “stream as free”

Music-bazaar reminded me of a certain eBook site that got taken down in June 2017 and the trial has still not taken place. BTW, the site was founded in September 2013.

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So the mistake was the editor putting CD1, CD2, CD3, CD4 all up as a single release when they should have been ten separate releases. That makes sense.

What I don’t understand is why they are having their work deleted instead of split into ten separate releases like would happen with a US store. I understand if this was blatant pirate downloads from the Pirate Bay, but this is a ten year old Russian store.

There’s no real way to split a release into separate releases aside from re-adding the content elsewhere and removing the original.

It is easy to do. Just “Move medium” on the CDs to attach them to newly made releases. I’ve done it before repairing a noobie’s mistake. It is the best way to show them their error by making a good example from their work.

Don’t even need to go into the full Release, just grab the links from the edits.

Destruction of all his work seems overkill for the error they made. A pirate whacking pirate releases up here I’d understand the deleting, but this guy added it from a legitimate online store. So what if that store is not following Western laws.

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Alternatively, one can use the “existing medium” tab in the Add Medium pop-up window to copy the medium to a new release. I did this to add each of the releases individually.

Normally I wouldn’t even add these at all, but we had a similar discussion about bootleg digital releases a while back and I don’t want to look like a hypocrite.

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