Proper Rate Your Music linking

Hello hello! I’ve been casually adding Rate Your Music links to artists and release as I browse and do other edits. But now that I think about it there’s a couple things I’m not entirely certain on and wanted to ask about.

Do RYM links go at the release or release level group? Both?

I’ve been adding the links at the release level but I’m not sure if that’s correct because I don’t know if it’s possible that RYM changes the order of releases listed on an album page or if that might affect what the URLs point to.

For example:
This release group Succumb - Succumb currently has a CD release where I put this RYM link that points to the CD release there https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/succumb/succumb/. On the digital release I put this RYM that points to the digital release there https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/succumb/succumb-3/. But that first CD release link is also just the link for the album as a whole on RYM which to me feels like it would make sense to be linked at the release group level. And as I mentioned I don’t know if the primary release can change, making a release level relationship invalid.

Another thing I noticed is a lot of existing RYM URLs that use underscores for spaces, but currently I see hyphens being used instead. For example: https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/dolly-parton vs https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/dolly_parton. Should I change these if I see them? They both work the same but I don’t know if there’s value in a more recent version of the link.

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I’d say that’s a release group link with the release link for the “main” release being https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/succumb/succumb.p/

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Yay, more links!

  1. As reo pointed out, the RYM release-level link is appended by a “.p” and then “-123” for any more releases in the group on RYM.
  2. So you can add https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/succumb/succumb/ to the MB release group and https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/succumb/succumb-1/ to the MB specific release (assuming that specific release is in MB)

imo it is important to get this distinction right (related ticket and discussion as to why this can’t be enforced programatically).

I think you can update the underscore links to the dashed version, if you can be bothered. Currently someone can add the dash version alongside the underscore version, and then we have duplicate links. Not sure if this can be programatically fixed/blocked either… some albums/artist will have an actual underscore in their name so we can’t just replace all underscores with dashes.


imo compulsory userscripts for adding RYM links:

  • Display shortcut for relationships on MusicBrainz
  • MusicBrainz Release Group Linker

Secondary, but also helpful: MusicBrainz RYM Link Checker (can’t remember how well this one works/don’t currently have it installed)

(find the userscripts here)

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Is there a (hidden?) numbered -123 suffix, for their first edition?
With only that .p suffix, I feel we cannot link the first edition to its MB release…

I’m not sure I understand? The second release in the group gets appended with -1, but the first one remains .p (it’s a permanent link to that release) so it should be linkable.

I was afraid the -p would be dynamic/variable with time, like our release group front covers.

Yeah that’s one of things I mentioned, can the -p link change? The other, number, suffixes don’t seem to change based on any reordering but -p could have a different behaviour. Maybe some experienced RYM editors or mods could confirm.