Matching bookogs credit roles to bookbrainz

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I was never a big fan of those massive amount of credit roles on bookogs. And now for the import to bookbrainz it will be necessary to get deeper into this. There are 465 roles defined in bookogs and they need to match to 32 roles here. Some rare things like “Audience Development Director” or “Health Editor” might be not so important and can even be removed.

A simple approach would be to put all the information in the annotation field and reassociate them manually during checking the import. But then we will have a lot of orphaned authors and publishers in the database. So maybe an automated association could help to make the import easier. Below listed are all roles from bookogs and a first try to match to bookbrainz roles. My current idea will combine a lot of roles into one relation (e.g. editors, copyright). I don’t know if this is the best idea, as detailed information will be lost. But as stated above having 465 roles again would not be my favourite solution too. I wonder what the opinion of the other members will be.

To continue, it would be very kind, if I get some help on those matches, as some of the roles are not clear to me.

Neither Author/Publisher

  • ---
  • About/Subject
  • Other
  • Periodical Title
  • Publisher Series
  • Series

Publisher:

Relation to Edition:

published:

  • Associate Publisher
  • Co-publisher
  • Published in/by Arrangement with
  • Published with Assistance from
  • Publisher

holds the copyright for:

  • Copyright Holder
  • Copyright Holder (Afterword)
  • Copyright Holder (Compilation)
  • Copyright Holder (Cover/Jacket Art)
  • Copyright Holder (Cover/Jacket Design)
  • Copyright Holder (Design)
  • Copyright Holder (Editorial Material)
  • Copyright Holder (Excerpt)
  • Copyright Holder (Foreword)
  • Copyright Holder (Foreword/Preface)
  • Copyright Holder (Graphics)
  • Copyright Holder (Illustrations)
  • Copyright Holder (Illustrations/Photos)
  • Copyright Holder (Introduction/Prologue)
  • Copyright Holder (Notes)
  • Copyright Holder (Original Edition)
  • Copyright Holder (Photos)
  • Copyright Holder (Retelling)
  • Copyright Holder (Selection)
  • Copyright Holder (Text)
  • Copyright Holder (This Edition)
  • Copyright Holder (Translation)
  • Copyright Renewed By

licensed:

  • Licensed to

licensee:

  • Licensed from

manufactured:

  • Lamination
  • Manufacturing by

promoted:

  • Promotion

distributed:

  • Distributed by/Director of Distribution

Relation to work:

commissioned:

licensed:

Author:

Relation to Edition:

edited:

  • Acquisitions Editor
  • Articles Editor
  • Assistant Editor
  • Associate Editor
  • Associate Managing Editor
  • Chief Sub-Editor
  • Co-Editor
  • Commissioning Editor
  • Consulting Editor
  • Continuity Editor
  • Contributing Editor
  • Copy Editor
  • Corporate Editor
  • Creative Development Editor
  • Deputy Editor
  • Deputy Managing Editor
  • Editor
  • Editor-At-Large
  • Editor Emeritius
  • Editor for Special Projects
  • Editorial Assistant
  • Editorial Board
  • Editorial Coordination
  • Editorial Director
  • Editorial Intern
  • Editorial Journalist
  • Editorial Manager
  • Editorial Operations
  • Editorial Production Coordinator
  • Editorial Production Director
  • Editorial/Production Supervision
  • Editor in Chief
  • Editor of Publications
  • Executive Editor
  • Features Editor
  • Final Editor
  • Founding Editor
  • General Editor
  • Group Editor
  • Guest Editor
  • Lead Editor
  • Letters Editor
  • Managing Editor
  • Media Editor
  • Poetry Editor
  • Research Editor
  • Roving Editor
  • Production Editor
  • Senior Editor
  • Senior Editor/Director
  • Series Editor
  • Staff Editor
  • Sub-Editor
  • Subscription Editor
  • Technical Editor
  • Technology Editor
  • Text Editor
  • Visual Editor
  • Web Editor
  • West Coast Editor

illustrated:

  • Illustrator

proofread:

  • Corrector
  • Proofreader
  • Spell Checking

compiled:

  • Compiled by

designed:

  • Assistant Designer
  • Design Adaptation
  • Design Assistant
  • Design Concept
  • Designed at
  • Designed by
  • Design Manager
  • Design Manager/Supervisor
  • Design Studio Manager

typset:

  • Set and Printed by
  • Typeset by

provided photography for:

  • Contributing Photographer
  • Photo Credit
  • Photography
  • Photography Archive

wrote blurb for:

was the art director for:

  • Art Director/Editor

Relation to Work:

wrote:

  • Author
  • Co-Author
  • Co-writer
  • Contributing Writer
  • Text by
  • Writer

translated:

  • Translated by
  • Translation Assistance

worked on:

illustrated:

inked:

provided story for:

  • Story by

lettered:

  • Lettering
  • Letters

provided art for:

  • Artist
  • Co-Artist
  • Concept Artist
  • Contributing Artist

revised:

reconstructed:

has a dedication in:

previously had the attribution for:

commissioned:

licensed:

Unknown match:

  • Abridged by
  • Accountant
  • Acquisitions Coordinator
  • Adapted by
  • Administrative Assistant
  • Advertising
  • Advertising Manager/Coordinator
  • Advisor
  • Afterword by
  • Animator
  • Annotated by
  • Appendix
  • Appreciation by
  • Archivist
  • Arranged by
  • Art Approvals
  • Art Assistant
  • Art Project Support
  • Assets
  • Assistant Director
  • Assistant Manufacturing Manager
  • Assistant Photographer
  • Associate
  • Associate Designer
  • Associate Producer
  • Audience Development Director
  • Author photo
  • Author photo/portrait
  • Based on an idea by
  • Based on a story by
  • Based on the screenplay by
  • Bibliography by
  • Block Making
  • Book Club
  • Book Design by
  • Bound by
  • Bureau Cheif
  • Bureau Manager
  • Business Affairs
  • Business Director
  • Calligraphy by
  • Cartographer/Cartography by
  • Chairman of the Board
  • Chief Archivist
  • Chief Executive Officer (CEO)
  • Chief Financial Officer (CFO)
  • Chief Operating Officer (COO)
  • Chief Series Consultant
  • Chronology by
  • Cinematographer
  • Circulation Director
  • Circulation Director/Manager
  • Classified Sales Executive
  • Clothing
  • Collected by
  • Colored/Colorized by
  • Color Grading By
  • Color Management
  • Color Reproduction
  • Commentary by
  • Communications Director
  • Composition
  • Concept by
  • Concept/Conceived by
  • Conclusion by
  • Consultant
  • Consulting Design Director
  • Consumer Products Manager
  • Contributer
  • Contributor
  • Controller
  • Coordination by/Coordinator
  • Copy Chief
  • Copy Controller
  • Correspondent
  • Costume Design by
  • Cover Art by
  • Cover Artist
  • Cover Director
  • Cover/Jacket Design by
  • Cover/Jacket Font by
  • Cover photo
  • Cover Printed by
  • Creative Development Production
  • Creative Development Writer
  • Creative Director
  • Creator
  • Curated by
  • Deputy Art Director
  • Development
  • Development Editor
  • Development Manager
  • Devised by
  • Diagrams by
  • Digital Art Technician
  • Digital Director
  • Digital Imaging
  • Digital Manager
  • Digital Production
  • Director
  • Director/Chief of Research
  • Director of Administration
  • Director of Creative Development
  • Director of Creative Services
  • Director of Design
  • Director of Editorial Resources
  • Director of Infographics
  • Director of Licensing
  • Director of Marketing
  • Director of Photography
  • Director of Production Services
  • Director of Retail Sales
  • Display Sales Executive
  • Documentation
  • Educational Activities by
  • Electrotyped by
  • Embossing
  • Endpapers by
  • Enlarged by
  • Epilogue by
  • Essay by
  • European Editor
  • Event Director
  • Events Manager
  • Executive Director
  • Executive Producer
  • Executive Vice President
  • Expanded by
  • Film Processing
  • Financial Director
  • First Published by
  • Food Styling
  • Foreword by
  • Franchise
  • Game Designer
  • General Manager
  • Ghostwriter
  • Graphic Design
  • Graphic Production by
  • Graphics by
  • Group Vice President
  • Head of Legal and Licensing
  • Health Editor
  • Iconograph
  • Image Manager
  • Image Retouching
  • Imprint
  • Indexer
  • Intellectual Property Manager
  • Interior Art
  • Interior Design
  • Intern
  • Interview by
  • Interview by/Interviewer
  • Interviewee
  • Interviewer
  • Interview with
  • Interview with/Interviewee
  • Introduction by
  • Junior Designer
  • Layout
  • Layout by/Layout Coordinator
  • Layout Design
  • Lead Developer
  • Legal Counsel
  • Lexicographer
  • Library
  • Licensing
  • Licensing & Acquired Rights Manager
  • Licensing Manager
  • Licensing Specialist
  • Linotype Setting
  • Literary Script by
  • Lithographed by
  • Localization
  • Location Research
  • Logo by
  • Lore
  • Lyrics by
  • Manager
  • Managing Developer
  • Managing Director
  • Manufacturing Director
  • Manufacturing Supervisor
  • Manufacturing Supervisor/Manager
  • Maps
  • Marketed by
  • Marketing/Advertising
  • Marketing Assistant
  • Marketing Director
  • Marketing Manager
  • Media Development Manager
  • Media Director
  • Media Group
  • Mixed by
  • Musical Autography
  • Music by
  • Music Composed by
  • Music Editor
  • Narrator
  • Notes by
  • Novelization by
  • Office Manager
  • Online Managing Editor
  • Online/Web Editor/Coordinator
  • Operations Manager
  • Origination by
  • Package Design
  • Paper
  • Performed by
  • Permissions
  • Phonographic Copyright Holder
  • Photo Associate
  • Photo Director
  • Photo Director/Coordinator
  • Photo Editing
  • Photography Assisting
  • Photo Intern
  • Photo/Picture Editor
  • Photo/Picture Researcher
  • Poetry by
  • Postface by
  • Preface by
  • Premedia
  • Prepress and Manufacturing Buyer
  • Preprint
  • Presenter
  • President
  • Printed and Bound by
  • Printed by
  • Printed By
  • Printing/Publishing Director
  • Print Management
  • Producer
  • Producer/Executive Producer
  • Production
  • Production Assistant
  • Production Coordinator
  • Production Director/Manager
  • Production Supervisor
  • Production Support
  • Project Development Editor
  • Project Editor/Coordinator
  • Project Editor/Coordinator/Director
  • Prologue by
  • Promotion Director
  • Prop Styling
  • Public Relations
  • Publishing Director
  • Publishing Manager
  • Publishing/Publisher’s Assistant
  • Puzzle by
  • Quality Control
  • Read by
  • Recipes by
  • Recorded at
  • Recorded by
  • Reporter
  • Reprinted with/by arrangement with
  • Reprints/E-prints/Plaques
  • Reproduction
  • Reproduction Coordinator
  • Reproduction rights
  • Reprographics
  • Research Assistant
  • Research & Data Manager
  • Researcher
  • Retold by
  • Retold/Rewritten by
  • Review by
  • Reviews Editor
  • Revised by
  • Rights Coordinator
  • Rights Coordinator
  • Sales and Event Executive
  • Sales Assistant
  • Sales Director
  • Sales Manager
  • Sales Representative
  • Scanning/Prepress
  • Scans by
  • Scientific Advisor
  • Script/Screenplay by
  • Sculptures by
  • Section Editor
  • Selected by
  • Senior Accountant
  • Senior Brand Manager
  • Senior Copy Controller
  • Senior Designer
  • Senior Manager
  • Senior Managing Editor
  • Senior Production Controller
  • Senior Technology Editor
  • Senior Vice President
  • Senior Writer
  • Separations by
  • Series Created by
  • Series Designer
  • Series Director
  • Series Editorial Board
  • Series Foreword
  • Series Secretary
  • Slipcase Artist
  • Sound Design
  • Special Assistance
  • Special Effects Supervisor
  • Special Projects
  • Staff
  • Staff Cinematographer
  • Staff Writer
  • Storyboard Artist
  • Studio Engineer
  • Styling
  • Supervising Photographer
  • Supervision/Oversight
  • Technical Advisor
  • Technical Director
  • Technology
  • Text Design
  • Text Director
  • Told by
  • Transcribed by
  • Typography by
  • Updated by
  • Vice President
  • Video Production Manager
  • Voice Actor
  • Volume Designer
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This table shows how often each role is used in the bookogs dump of June. Maybe making a cut somewhere would be an option. If we throw out every role with less than 1000 uses, 16271 credits will be removed. 2285 of them are already orphaned in bookogs.

                   role                   | count  
------------------------------------------+--------
 Manufacturing Supervisor                 |      1
 Location Research                        |      1
 Senior Accountant                        |      1
 Consumer Products Manager                |      1
 Cinematographer                          |      1
 Bureau Cheif                             |      1
 Reprints/E-prints/Plaques                |      1
 Staff Cinematographer                    |      2
 Copyright Holder (Foreword)              |      2
 Chief Archivist                          |      2
 Circulation Director                     |      2
 Printed By                               |      2
 European Editor                          |      2
 Health Editor                            |      2
 Slipcase Artist                          |      2
 Retold by                                |      3
 Online Managing Editor                   |      3
 Licensing Specialist                     |      3
 Creative Development Writer              |      3
 Audience Development Director            |      3
 Creative Development Production          |      4
 Embossing                                |      4
 Group Vice President                     |      4
 Art Approvals                            |      4
 Assistant Manufacturing Manager          |      4
 Musical Autography                       |      4
 Educational Activities by                |      4
 Lamination                               |      5
 Junior Designer                          |      5
 Senior Technology Editor                 |      5
 Director of Creative Services            |      5
 Special Effects Supervisor               |      6
 Enlarged by                              |      6
 Associate Managing Editor                |      6
 Interviewer                              |      6
 Design Manager                           |      6
 Senior Manager                           |      6
 Premedia                                 |      6
 Development Manager                      |      6
 Photo Director                           |      7
 Assistant Photographer                   |      7
 Sound Design                             |      7
 Conclusion by                            |      7
 Head of Legal and Licensing              |      8
 Events Manager                           |      8
 Event Director                           |      8
 Mixed by                                 |      8
 Managing Developer                       |      8
 Director of Licensing                    |      9
 Acquisitions Coordinator                 |      9
 Senior Managing Editor                   |      9
 Senior Copy Controller                   |      9
 Senior Brand Manager                     |      9
 Letters Editor                           |      9
 Intellectual Property Manager            |      9
 Expanded by                              |      9
 Display Sales Executive                  |      9
 Contributer                              |     10
 Continuity Editor                        |     10
 Lore                                     |     10
 Sculptures by                            |     10
 Series Foreword                          |     10
 Rights Coordinator                       |     10
 Spell Checking                           |     10
 West Coast Editor                        |     10
 Director of Creative Development         |     11
 Video Production Manager                 |     12
 Studio Engineer                          |     12
 Interviewee                              |     12
 Poetry Editor                            |     13
 Creative Development Editor              |     13
 Design Studio Manager                    |     14
 Assets                                   |     14
 Media Development Manager                |     14
 Appreciation by                          |     14
 Chief Financial Officer (CFO)            |     14
 Digital Art Technician                   |     15
 Text Director                            |     15
 Ghostwriter                              |     15
 Chief Operating Officer (COO)            |     15
 Research & Data Manager                  |     16
 Recorded at                              |     16
 Literary Script by                       |     16
 Animator                                 |     16
 Electrotyped by                          |     16
 Producer/Executive Producer              |     17
 Design Adaptation                        |     17
 Photo Associate                          |     17
 Rights Coordinator                       |     18
 Roving Editor                            |     18
 Block Making                             |     18
 Interview by                             |     18
 Bureau Manager                           |     18
 ---                                      |     19
 Senior Editor                            |     19
 Digital Director                         |     19
 Devised by                               |     19
 Lead Developer                           |     19
 Marketing Assistant                      |     20
 Series Secretary                         |     20
 Licensing & Acquired Rights Manager      |     20
 Editorial Production Director            |     21
 Package Design                           |     21
 Director of Retail Sales                 |     21
 Reproduction rights                      |     22
 Project Development Editor               |     22
 Reproduction Coordinator                 |     23
 Senior Production Controller             |     23
 Executive Vice President                 |     23
 Costume Design by                        |     23
 Chief Series Consultant                  |     24
 Communications Director                  |     24
 Promotion Director                       |     26
 Senior Vice President                    |     26
 Volume Designer                          |     26
 Copyright Holder (Retelling)             |     26
 Consulting Design Director               |     27
 Manufacturing Director                   |     27
 Color Management                         |     29
 Technology Editor                        |     29
 Prepress and Manufacturing Buyer         |     29
 Archivist                                |     29
 Scanning/Prepress                        |     29
 Interview with                           |     29
 Editorial Intern                         |     29
 Puzzle by                                |     30
 Image Retouching                         |     30
 Development Editor                       |     31
 Film Processing                          |     31
 Director of Photography                  |     31
 Acquisitions Editor                      |     32
 Co-Artist                                |     32
 Visual Editor                            |     33
 Clothing                                 |     34
 Art Project Support                      |     34
 Concept Artist                           |     34
 Technology                               |     35
 Prop Styling                             |     36
 Novelization by                          |     36
 Publishing/Publisher's Assistant         |     37
 Chronology by                            |     37
 Corporate Editor                         |     37
 Business Affairs                         |     37
 Operations Manager                       |     37
 Controller                               |     37
 Accountant                               |     37
 Layout                                   |     38
 Group Editor                             |     38
 Digital Manager                          |     39
 Quality Control                          |     39
 Sales Director                           |     39
 Storyboard Artist                        |     40
 Associate Producer                       |     41
 Deputy Managing Editor                   |     41
 Letters                                  |     42
 Separations by                           |     43
 Final Editor                             |     44
 Photo Intern                             |     44
 Associate Designer                       |     45
 Photography Assisting                    |     47
 Supervising Photographer                 |     48
 Research Assistant                       |     48
 Lexicographer                            |     50
 Special Projects                         |     50
 Intern                                   |     53
 Library                                  |     54
 Told by                                  |     57
 Media Director                           |     58
 Production Supervisor                    |     59
 Director of Production Services          |     60
 Endpapers by                             |     60
 Styling                                  |     61
 Director of Editorial Resources          |     61
 Editorial Operations                     |     61
 Cover Director                           |     62
 Copy Chief                               |     63
 Updated by                               |     65
 Licensing Manager                        |     66
 Narrator                                 |     66
 Cover/Jacket Font by                     |     66
 Manufacturing Supervisor/Manager         |     68
 Copyright Holder (Graphics)              |     70
 General Manager                          |     71
 Diagrams by                              |     72
 Food Styling                             |     72
 Calligraphy by                           |     72
 Assistant Director                       |     73
 Executive Producer                       |     73
 Licensing                                |     74
 Copy Controller                          |     77
 Color Grading By                         |     78
 Recipes by                               |     78
 Sales Assistant                          |     78
 Chairman of the Board                    |     82
 Book Club                                |     84
 Guest Editor                             |     84
 Linotype Setting                         |     85
 Supervision/Oversight                    |     86
 Special Assistance                       |     87
 Director of Infographics                 |     90
 Legal Counsel                            |     90
 Editorial Production Coordinator         |     91
 Epilogue by                              |     91
 Concept/Conceived by                     |     92
 Promotion                                |     94
 Editor Emeritius                         |     94
 Associate                                |     95
 Director of Marketing                    |     99
 Director/Chief of Research               |    100
 Postface by                              |    100
 Documentation                            |    100
 Editor for Special Projects              |    101
 Digital Production                       |    102
 Copyright Holder (Selection)             |    102
 Section Editor                           |    103
 Bibliography by                          |    104
 Public Relations                         |    104
 Marketed by                              |    105
 Articles Editor                          |    108
 Author photo                             |    108
 Copyright Holder (Afterword)             |    114
 Scans by                                 |    116
 Chief Sub-Editor                         |    117
 Deputy Art Director                      |    118
 Photo Director/Coordinator               |    119
 Script/Screenplay by                     |    123
 Assistant Designer                       |    125
 Reporter                                 |    126
 Technical Advisor                        |    126
 Image Manager                            |    126
 Media Editor                             |    127
 Appendix                                 |    128
 Performed by                             |    129
 Production Assistant                     |    130
 Senior Writer                            |    130
 Financial Director                       |    131
 Lettering                                |    131
 Co-writer                                |    132
 Office Manager                           |    133
 Sales and Event Executive                |    134
 Series Editorial Board                   |    137
 Game Designer                            |    138
 Project Editor/Coordinator               |    140
 Abridged by                              |    144
 Director of Administration               |    144
 Iconograph                               |    144
 Research Editor                          |    145
 Series Created by                        |    146
 Classified Sales Executive               |    147
 Voice Actor                              |    147
 Preprint                                 |    147
 Digital Imaging                          |    151
 Translation Assistance                   |    153
 Development                              |    155
 Colored/Colorized by                     |    155
 Cover Printed by                         |    155
 Art Assistant                            |    158
 Based on an idea by                      |    165
 Copyright Holder (Notes)                 |    168
 Commissioning Editor                     |    169
 Executive Director                       |    170
 Manager                                  |    170
 Logo by                                  |    171
 Online/Web Editor/Coordinator            |    175
 Web Editor                               |    177
 Production Support                       |    179
 Copyright Holder (Editorial Material)    |    186
 Color Reproduction                       |    189
 Subscription Editor                      |    190
 Set and Printed by                       |    193
 Marketing Manager                        |    198
 Design Manager/Supervisor                |    204
 Localization                             |    208
 Editorial/Production Supervision         |    209
 Director of Design                       |    209
 Designed at                              |    221
 Senior Designer                          |    223
 Transcribed by                           |    223
 Copyright Holder (Design)                |    225
 Copyright Holder (Foreword/Preface)      |    227
 Copyright Holder (Compilation)           |    227
 Indexer                                  |    229
 Annotated by                             |    231
 Graphic Production by                    |    233
 Design Assistant                         |    235
 Vice President                           |    238
 Editor-At-Large                          |    242
 Co-Editor                                |    250
 Based on a story by                      |    253
 Administrative Assistant                 |    259
 Chief Executive Officer (CEO)            |    263
 Copyright Renewed By                     |    264
 Business Director                        |    268
 Copyright Holder (Illustrations/Photos)  |    268
 Origination by                           |    269
 Sales Representative                     |    274
 Founding Editor                          |    276
 Text Design                              |    277
 Editorial Manager                        |    282
 Recorded by                              |    288
 Creative Director                        |    290
 Marketing Director                       |    294
 Features Editor                          |    296
 Paper                                    |    298
 Arranged by                              |    301
 Circulation Director/Manager             |    311
 Retold/Rewritten by                      |    313
 Lead Editor                              |    316
 Print Management                         |    318
 Presenter                                |    321
 Collected by                             |    325
 Design Concept                           |    344
 Marketing/Advertising                    |    345
 Reproduction                             |    346
 Lithographed by                          |    349
 Reprinted with/by arrangement with       |    357
 Published with Assistance from           |    365
 Production Coordinator                   |    366
 President                                |    369
 Based on the screenplay by               |    380
 Cartographer/Cartography by              |    391
 Co-publisher                             |    407
 Permissions                              |    416
 Associate Publisher                      |    426
 Prologue by                              |    431
 Series Director                          |    435
 Reviews Editor                           |    439
 Publishing Manager                       |    440
 Interior Design                          |    443
 Selected by                              |    459
 Concept by                               |    462
 Production Editor                        |    465
 Adapted by                               |    469
 Phonographic Copyright Holder            |    482
 Advisor                                  |    495
 Photo Editing                            |    518
 Copyright Holder (Cover/Jacket Design)   |    520
 Editorial Journalist                     |    538
 Sales Manager                            |    556
 Creator                                  |    573
 Composition                              |    600
 Technical Director                       |    611
 Photo/Picture Researcher                 |    633
 Text Editor                              |    637
 Media Group                              |    637
 Music by                                 |    637
 Researcher                               |    665
 Staff Writer                             |    669
 Interior Art                             |    688
 Reprographics                            |    693
 Correspondent                            |    693
 Scientific Advisor                       |    703
 Music Editor                             |    718
 Read by                                  |    732
 Deputy Editor                            |    737
 Copyright Holder (Excerpt)               |    740
 Consulting Editor                        |    747
 Licensed to                              |    756
 Bound by                                 |    766
 Photography Archive                      |    785
 Copyright Holder (Introduction/Prologue) |    810
 Story by                                 |    833
 Project Editor/Coordinator/Director      |    844
 Commentary by                            |    858
 Producer                                 |    867
 Senior Editor/Director                   |    878
 Managing Director                        |    896
 Notes by                                 |    925
 Curated by                               |    964
 Maps                                     |   1017
 Editorial Coordination                   |   1042
 Consultant                               |   1043
 Production Director/Manager              |   1051
 Photo/Picture Editor                     |   1056
 Series Designer                          |   1058
 Copy Editor                              |   1157
 Advertising Manager/Coordinator          |   1163
 Manufacturing by                         |   1176
 Proofreader                              |   1242
 Coordination by/Coordinator              |   1267
 Music Composed by                        |   1288
 Licensed from                            |   1308
 Advertising                              |   1315
 Executive Editor                         |   1378
 Staff Editor                             |   1380
 Franchise                                |   1408
 Series Editor                            |   1417
 Staff                                    |   1430
 Copyright Holder (Original Edition)      |   1446
 Contributing Artist                      |   1473
 Typography by                            |   1524
 Managing Editor                          |   1554
 Copyright Holder (Cover/Jacket Art)      |   1566
 Book Design by                           |   1589
 Interview by/Interviewer                 |   1598
 Afterword by                             |   1601
 Graphics by                              |   1601
 Preface by                               |   1679
 Essay by                                 |   1693
 Layout Design                            |   1784
 Editorial Director                       |   1885
 Lyrics by                                |   1918
 Editorial Assistant                      |   1969
 Editor of Publications                   |   1990
 Copyright Holder (Illustrations)         |   2064
 Revised by                               |   2145
 Sub-Editor                               |   2194
 Copyright Holder (Photos)                |   2289
 Co-Author                                |   2380
 Author photo/portrait                    |   2493
 Associate Editor                         |   2502
 Publishing Director                      |   2587
 Contributing Editor                      |   2657
 Assistant Editor                         |   2739
 Graphic Design                           |   2750
 General Editor                           |   2784
 Copyright Holder (Text)                  |   2902
 Compiled by                              |   2951
 Copyright Holder (Translation)           |   3382
 Production                               |   3405
 Copyright Holder (This Edition)          |   3416
 Director                                 |   3478
 Published in/by Arrangement with         |   3611
 Poetry by                                |   3633
 Contributing Photographer                |   4003
 Printing/Publishing Director             |   4151
 Photo Credit                             |   4226
 Editorial Board                          |   4243
 Foreword by                              |   4515
 Cover Artist                             |   4771
 Introduction by                          |   4831
 Layout by/Layout Coordinator             |   5042
 Review by                                |   5188
 Text by                                  |   6596
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I agree the credit roles need to be rationalised, either consolidating seldom used roles into one with a broader definition that has more attributions, or as you suggest eliminating those with a low frequency of attribution.

I wonder if there are any plans to increase the amount of credit roles on BB (hopefully not 465 of them) to refine and capture more data. It would be a shame to exclude data during the transfer that might be used in the near future. Just looking at your list, there is nothing IMO under 1000 counts that is of any great importance.

I am more than happy to lend you a hand, although I must admit even though English is my native language, some of the credit roles on that list are a bit obscure. That’s why they didn’t get much use!

I notice there is a duplicate role: “Printed By” (2) and “Printed by” (45,241).

P.S. if you want to communicate with me privately on Discogs, my username is RolandToland (thethrowback was deactivated).

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On MusicBrainz we have such a thing as “miscellaneous role” where you can enter the role as a free text field - for a lot of these, this would seem sensible (at least at first until we figure out they need their own relationship).

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This sounds like the best solution. So we only transfer to the 32 roles which are already defined here and put the rest under misc. . Only problem: The feature is not yet available on bookbrainz…

I was thinking this exact thing!
I noticed how mb has this “fill in the blank” “other” relation which I thought might be a good idea to add to BookBrainz too :​D

edit: I am currently working on improving and adding(suggesting, since I can’t actually *add* it) Relationships (style): https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/BB-514

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ah I can say that several of these “unknown match” ones are ones I’m adding as suggestions (such as the colouring and foreword/appendices/etc roles (in *brainz terminology we call these “relationships”, or rels.))

And I must thank you for this list. It’ll make figuring out what sort of attributes we should add a lot easier!
Attributes are attached to the relationships, for example: say you have a “design” rel; Author designed Edition" attributes are things like “Assistant”, “Co-”, “Manager”, etc. and those attributes can be used on any designated rels as well.

So instead of having “manager”, “co-manager” “assistant manger” and “designer”, “co-designer”, “assistant designer” and “correspondent”, “co-correspondent”, “assistant correspondent” all as separate roles you have only “manager”, “designer” and “correspondent” which each can have any number of attributes.

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It is worth noting that even with those 465 Credit roles on Bookogs, there was a running thread where users posted requests for more. Unfortunately, there is no way of making everyone happy: https://books.discogs.com/forum/758-new-credit-role-requests

The same applies to genres which is not yet a feature on BB.

I can say that genres are probably “long-term” in BB, but if and when we implement those, they’ll probably be modelled on how MusicBrainz does it - as it is now BB doesn’t even have a rudimentary tagging ability (yet) :​D
if you like, you can create a ticket for that atleast.

465 roles defined and still
Other | 18257
:slight_smile:

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I guess those 18257 are at least 465 additional roles…
:upside_down_face:

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465 to the power of 10 more likely.