I canât speak for what MB wants. But I can say - Discogsâs purpose is to be a marketplace. The buying/selling/trading of music. They donât care about the information about albums, other than it may help someone buy something. For example - âJohn Smith played on Little Jimmyâs album? I did not know that. Oh, how I must have it.â
That is why you canât just go and make an artist entry like you can here. Artists need associated with albums. There are no âtouring band membersâ on Discogs. Only recording personnel.
Yes, coverage is lagging behind Discogs, for artists and releases. But from what i see MB has also many artists and/or releases that arenât in Discogs. It would be interesting to have this number too.
About the strategy, the fact is Discogs has many entries because it is an exchange platform, i guess it would be much different if there was a similar exchange platform using MusicBrainz as backend, afaik none exists until now.
So, it is about having more editors, but history shows this number is pretty stable over years.
But there is no specific strategy apart from the Compose cleanups ?
Iâm sure there are MusicBrainz artists not in Discogs but since my principal interest is improving MusicBrainz not Discogs so I dont have an answer for that. What I can say is a simple count of âartistsâ in MusicBrainz gives 1,325,488 compared to 5,526,005 for Discogs.
I did some editing yesterday, what I found most annoying is that there is a 10 second delay between submitting a new release and waiting for MusicBrainz to come back, in the past I have used multiple tabs to add releases but that led to hitting a bug whereby MusicBrainz adds a release but not the tracks.
Existing editors could achieve more if submit new release did not perform so badly.
Yes, actually Im confident that 99.9% of those are correct, i.e the potential link is correct (of course a few will already be linked now but very few wrong) so I wonder if it would be allowable for someone to use an importer script since alot of manual work otherwise.
Well, using this page i just created a link, the process is quick (check, submit). We could start with artists having a significant number of releases.
To automate, if community agrees, imho we should have at least another match (like common links to artistâs website, wikipedia or FB page), but i agree with you, this list looks very correct (i checked like 30 random entries, all were correct). @reosarevok , @bitmap : do you think itâd be acceptable ?
@bitmap : could you provide some insights about the slow submission process ? I didnât measure yet, but itâs pretty clear it is slow compared to the size of data transmitted, now i know there are a lot of stuff occuring behind the scene.
Total count isnât reliable because there are so many multiple entries for one person.
Sure, it happens on both sites. But I feel it happens far more on Discogs than on MB.
No I realize that is misleading it was only in reply to Zas, however i think its unlikely that MusicBrainz has more real artists when the basic figure is only a 1/4 of Discogs figure.
It is quick if doing a handful, but personally I find it quite irritating doing more than that, but if there are others with more patience to so that would like to that would be fantastic. The report is ordered by total releases (musicbrainz + discogs) so the artists with the most releases are listed first.
The wikipedia/fb info is not readily available in Discogs so I dont think that could be done
Just to avoid any confusion this list of artists not in musicbrainz would have to be manually added, you are correct about that one and here is another one https://www.discogs.com/artist/1834889 . there is a problem with Discogs not splitting multiple people and I try to filter them out of that particular report but I havent managed in all cases.
⊠and some more of that same type, all from page 1, leaving out stuff like âGerry Mulligan And His Sextetâ, âGolden Orchestra And Chorusâ (and I do miss a fold-in/spoiler tag here):
Yes I have just explained that particular list needs to filter out where Discogs artist credit is actually multiple people, I will replace it in the next few days there is no point in finding further ones.
Understood, and my list is meant to illustrate (for other readers) a measure of that need, not a pointer at you or anything else; precisely because the list/link is of interest, as first said. All clear.
In this example Edit #51548320 - MusicBrainz artist was linked to old discogs ID that now redirects to new, maybe I donât know, there is a way to test these redirected dizscogs ID and change them by robot.
Reports are at http://www.albunack.net/reports.jsp
Yes, there will be a few old ids but I will update the report in the next couple of days, that should resolve this
This thread, perhaps most productively in the near term, is focused on a MB/Discogs difference.
There are other, larger, holes. Holes that contain music released for well over 50% of the worldâs population.
Chinese and Indian releases are almost totally absent AIUI.
The MB website is available in English, German, French and Dutch only.
Of the 12 language with more than 100 million speakers;
Mandarin 1051 million, English 510 million, Hindi 490 million, Spanish 420 million, Russian 255 million, Arabic 230 million, German 229 million, Benhgali 215 million, Portuguese 213 million, French 130 million, Japanese 127 million, Urdu 104 million,
MB is available in 3 (total speakers ~ 869 million) .
And unavailable in the languages of well over 3000 million.
To bring this back to the threadâs title:
Anyone with contacts with people with the language skills necessary to create more language versions of the MB website would be making a massive contribution if they could spark a translation.
I understand that this is all set-up and requires the translation and checking of around 8000 words and phrases.
Iâd be interested in being involved in such a project.