According to the guidelines the back of the tray inlay should be marked ‘back’. Most artwork collections have multiple images that are the back of something. O-card, slipcase, box, booklet, poster, and tray card. If I see only ‘back’ it would not be clear to me.
I once saw someone else mark the back of the tray as tray/spine/back and I thought that was very clear so I started doing the same. The front of the tray I mark as tray only, not front/tray.
How strict is this? It’s not wrong, I guess, the tray tag is just adding information, and to me it is clearer.
I have been using this for months, and have added hundreds of CDs. What to do?
Yes “Back” is literally in many places, but not in arwork used for tagging. The only ONE back is the back of the item you hold in your hand when you take it off the shelf.
Similar with “spine” - this is only the external spine. Not the spines you fine on the inside of the tray.
This slight tweak to the English Language means other systems can access the artwork in the Cover Art Archive and just ask for a “back” and not get the last page of a booklet.
So your use of “Tray” to describe the back image is incorrect and you should really fix those.
Update: If a search wizard knows now to make a search for “type = tray” in your artwork I would happily help bang though the edits and fix this. I’ve done it before for other people.
As we’ve discussed elsewhere, the style guidelines are in need of improvement. Tray is clear however. Back of the tray is nonsense. Back,Tray shouldn’t be allowed.
Nothing in the guidelines allows it. Back is “The back of the package of an audio recording” and tray also has an image as an example. That guideline is pretty good. The main problem is these guidelines are not promoted enough. When someone uploads art this needs to be waved around more.
When you do an edit to upload the artwork this guideline link needs to be in the text on that page. It only appears when you shuffle images.
When you edit art you just gets lots of details about writing an edit note.
Intuitive, yes. Just like “back, booklet” is intuitive in literally language. MB has specific meanings of those words that means “tray+spine” is not a thing (tray is always on the inside, and spine is always on the outside) also is “back+booklet” almost never going to happen. (Unless you have one of those deluxe book edition releases…)
But I hope you can see the logic as to what the guidelines are trying to do. By having “spine” as the outside of the package it allows an external tool to re-create an artificial mock-up of a Release. A media centre can request a front, back, spine, top, bottom to make a mock-up of the release package.
I am mad… and am happy to help on a repetitive task like this. I went through someone’s 400 artwork additions correction something like this a few months ago. I can’t do that with your 4000+ unless we can setup some kinda search to sift out the “tray, spine” combos.
If a search wizard can show us how to form a search for “tray, spine” it would be easy to then tweak it to “front, back” too. I just can’t work out the custom search needed (and have been trying)
editor = (username), Type is (Add Covert Art), with type including (tray, spine)
Absolutely, but let’s remember that they are community-led guidelines - if you have improvements in mind for this case, please draft them, and we can make them happen
p.s. because it’s come up as well, booklet + front is a often legitimate combination
Sorry, I will re-write that comment. Me bad with words again. I was meaning there are things we say in the English language that don’t fit the guidelines. “back+booklet” is never going to be a legit thing. “Back” has a very specific meaning
(I have also see people go “medium+back” for similar confused language reasons)
