How would you feel about expanding series to accomodate its use for awards?


#1

An Award entity has been proposed :
https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/STYLE-413
https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-5811

Personally, I think series (with a bit of tweaking) could be used for it (They already are) :
https://beta.musicbrainz.org/tag/awards

Musical awards are awarded to albums, recordings, works & artists… Entities we already have. We just need a proper way to relate them to a series (imho)
https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/STYLE-765

What do you think ? I’m not opposed to doing it another way but… convince me :slight_smile:

What are your thoughts ?


#2

I actually did create some series some time ago: Albums certifiés. Doesn’t it seem ok?
Despite the fact I then realised I could not really maintain these…


#3

But if we are going to do that, we need to limit what awards/certifications we accept.

MB isn’t WP. We aren’t limited to only “notable” artists. Do we want to have a list of awards like:
Best New Artist 2018 - according to the Shelbyville Daily Union. Shelbyville is a town in Illinois, population 4700.


#4

If it’s properly named and searchable I would love to know that data. With some data points from other geographical locations near or far you could even map some interesting stuff.


#5

Why not, if it’s true. :slight_smile:


#6

I’d be happy to have an entity (possibly Series or Events) for Artists for the main classical competitions (e.g. Tchaikovsky or Chopin competitions) where I can give a year and name of the prize (1st, 2nd…) for each artist


#7

A series will easily allow to list the winner of each year, like here. It seems much harder to use them for multiple positions, or nominees or whatevs.


#8

I already talked about this in irc so you know i am all :+1: for this idea :​​D

~C


#9

Awards?!

Can I get a Cessna Citation X?


#10

Dunno. You could have 2018.01 … 2018.10 for yearly top 10 lists.

My main issue with doing things like this is that it invites anyone adding their own top whatevers.


#11

Speaking as a relatively new editor, it seems unintuitive to think of awards as a “series”.

Following the Pulitzer example given by reosarevok, I guess for something like the Grammys you would have one award ‘series’ for each category (Best Pop Solo Performance, Best Rap Album, Best Music Video, etc.)?


#12

Whist being against the idea at the start, Lotheric’s attitude and the lack of strong arguments/costs of going with the idea of awards=series being presented has me thinking - Who says only labels can decide what forms a series?

What is the minimum requirement for spreadiness of the award?
Blog-post containing at least 5 recipients?
“Recognised” industry body with “independent” media coverage, with no evidence of “collusion”? :mrs_claus:
A weekly SMS to my brother?
Something I can just set-up on MB?

You know what? That last one might boost circulation numbers for MB in very desirable ways.
(Apologies to justcheckingitout. :grinning: If my “free love” approach has visible downsides please do make the problem explicit.)


#13

I’d like to live in a world where the cover of Rolling Stone and the Super Bowl Half Time Show weren’t pay-to-play, and where talent contests were about talent, not the marketing of fan favorites.
But I don’t.

In fact, I live in a world where my last 10,000 edits on Wikipedia have all been reverting vandalism.


#14

Ironically, it doesn’t seem like you can relate a series to a label? Educate me if I’m wrong, this has been a frustration to me :wink: