I found the work by Prokoviev already there, but did not find anything for martinu, and I think I had to add the composer Dieter Nowka, so his work is also to be entered yet. How would I do this as I need to make up a hierarchy of the movements and the concert. What relationships should be there aside from the composer?
I did not find a way to enter the opus number H173, nor the time of composition given by Wikipeadia.
How should I do this?
P.S. please also check someone if I did the rest of the data ok.
Also, is it somehow possible to enter the MBID when relating a recording to a work? I often have already found the work within MB, but could not find it with the search that opens when you try to link the recording to it.
There is no field for opus numbers for works, but there is a series for his work catalogue. You can link the work with the series and add the number as an attribute to the relationship. Catalogue numbers are also often added to the work title, see Work “Posvícení, H. 2” - MusicBrainz .
When you add a relationship between the composer and the work, you can enter a start and end date for the relationship, which shows the composition dates.
When you edit or enter relationships, you can paste MBIDs into search fields.
You could create works for all the parts and then by editing the main work add relationships between them.
On work page you select “edit” and then “add relationships”.
Select “Work” as a related type.
Search for parts of the works you already added or use copy-pasting by pasting the url of the part work from your computers clipboard to it.
You can also add the work publisher (=label), and a person (=artist) to whom the work was dedicated to, key of the work and many other things but these are totally optional.
@tritigr , Thank you for your commitment to enter classical music metadata and enter it well. That is most of what I do here, also, and I know it requires a lot of effort.
My workflow for adding a classical Work, consisting of several movements, when I am also entering a Release which includes those movements, is:
Search for the Work to be sure it doesn’t already exist.
From the composer’s Artist page, use the “Add work” link to create the top-level Work
Add composer, librettist, etc relations to the top-level Work.
For operas, create a second-level Work for each Act, and relate them to the top-level Work.
Enter the Release with all its tracks. Be sure that the Track titles confirm to the Classical Style Guide, which means they will probably work pretty well as Work titles also.
On the Release page, click the “Edit relationships” tab to enter the Relationship editor.
Select the tracks which correspond to movements in the Work.
Click the “Batch-add new works” to create Work entries for each movement.
In the Relationship editor, select the Work entries for each movement, then click the “Batch-add a relationship to works” button.
Create relationships for a) is Part Of (parent Work), b) Composer, c) Librettist etc if applicable.
Leave the Relationship editor
Edit the top-level Work. You will now see that it has Parts relationships to the movements. Click the button which lets you set an order to the Parts, so that they are in movement order.
The beauty of step 10. is that in one editing action, you can create relationships for all the per-movement Works at once. It’s not quite as simple as copying the relationships of the main Work, but it is close.
Also,
No, that is undesirable. Taggers will fetch composer metadata from the per-movement music files, so you want composer etc. relationships to the per-movement Works. You can’t count on taggers to climb the Works hierarchy and find relationships at the top-level Work.
I think you should take another look at the Classical Style Guide for Works and the CSG for Track Titles. The top-level Work name should be “decided by the composer, as printed in the score”. Did Martinů include “for left hand piano and small orchestra” in the score? Also, the separator between the top-level Work name and the movement name should be a colon, not a comma. You might want to make some improvements to the work names based on these CSG pages.
Also, you have a link to Wikipedia from the Martinů Concerto Work entry. The Wikipedia article is a list of Martinů compositions. It is not about this specific Concerto. Thus I think it is not really an appropriate link for the Work. The Martinů Artist page would benefit from a link to this article.
So, good work.
I would not propagate data which describes the work as a whole to each individual movement Work entry, unless the data is different for the different movements. A piece of software which has the MBID of a movement’s Work entry can find its way to the data by following the “is a part of” relations to the top-level Work entry, and find the data there. So, duplicating data doesn’t really add information, but it does make the database bigger and more difficult to keep consistent.
OK, I now found the time to look up the score. There it says “DIVERTIMENTO PRO KLAVÍR LEVOU A MALÝ ORCHESTR”/Divertimento pro klavír levou rukou a malý orchestr
Divertimento (Concertino) pro klavír levou rukou a malý orchestr = für Klavier linke Hand und kleines Orchester = for piano left hand and small orchestra : (1926/28) / Bohuslav Martinů : (= Divertimento proklavír levou rukou a malý orchestr)
So there is Information in three languages.How would I distribute the different languages into Aliases? Same for the addition “concertino” which does not turn up in the score…
Divertimento pro klavír levou rukou a malý orchestr / Divertimento für Klavier linke Hand und kleines Orchester / Divertimento for Piano Left Hand and Small Orchestra would be my choice of aliases.