How to deal with copy controlled CDs (and understanding error correction in EAC)?

Hi.
I want to digitize my CDs and I started with this task some months ago.
Now I’ve encountered the first “copy controlled” CD. How should I deal with this? Is there a way to still be able to make a FLAC copy of it?
Thanks!

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I never seen any difference in ripping or playing a CCCD.

I did nothing special (Linux, Windows with foobar2000 most probably)
What’s your OS and usual playing/ripping software?

You tried and it didn’t work?

Maybe my CCCD have a more basic, ineffective, protection.

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I’ve just tried with XLD on Mac OS Catalina 10.15.7 - didn’t work on Kelis’ Tasty CD.
I’m going to give it also a try on Windows 10 with Exact Audio Copy

What would you suggest otherwise?

OK - now with EAC I can see in real time what is going on (XLC doesn’t tell you until the whole ripping process has finished): I’m seeing lots of read and sync errors! How should I handle these? I’ve taken a look at the CDs surface and it has no scratches or similar…

I have ripped a lot of old CCCDs using EAC. What is this release? Which label? For example, I don’t get any trouble with the old Sony method from the 1990s.

Have a dig around in EAC’s advanced settings. Have a tweak of their error handling. (EAC Options \ Extraction) Turn that up to a higher level maybe. It will slow down the extraction, but it may get around the protection.

Or you may find skipping the first track may do it. I think some of these just build in extra errors to make ripping harder, but ultimately they have to comply to a CD standard at some point otherwise a CD player can’t play the CD. :slight_smile:

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It’s this release here:


And from the barcode I see printed on the back, it is the last one “Copy Control CD” I’d say: barcode 724359689029
I’ve increased the error handling to “high” but I still have read and sync errors. How do I know that the error correction has been efficient?

I’ve had a couple of copy controlled ones that have taken EAC literally hours to rip, showing errors being corrected on pretty much every track. In the end, the final test was actually listening to the resulting files, and they turned out just fine.

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As rdswift says, see what happens if you leave it overnight.

Otherwise turn on burst mode in EAC in Drive options and see how that goes. Less error correction - it generally manages to brute force its way through scratched CD’s and the like.

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Is there any way I could upload EAC’s log file so that you can check on it and tell me more (eventually)?

If you want to upload the log here, just copy and paste it and we’ll have a look.

But you are best just following the above suggestions. Leave it to rip, and then listen to the rip. You may be surprised as to what EAC can produce when left alone.

This is exactly how a CCCD works, the errors are included on purpose to confuse CD-ROM drives. A CD player will just use the error correction data that is included on the CD to fix these errors (or interpolates missing samples if there is not enough redundant data for a reconstruction). Almost all modern DAE software is also able to extract the correct audio data nevertheless, it only gets difficult when scratches or other damage cause additional read errors which make error correction impossible.

When you are using EAC with the AccurateRip plugin you can compare the checksums of your extracted audio files to the checksums of those who have submitted them (they are also part of the log file). Even if they are not the same you can still check the audio by listening as the others have suggested (EAC can assist you as it also reports suspicious positions in the file, so you do not have to listen to the whole album to be sure).

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if worst come the worst you can chuck it in itunes and play it to see if it is your drive that is giving up if none of the above works

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Exact Audio Copy V1.6 from 23. October 2020

EAC extraction logfile from 15. December 2020, 22:16

Kelis / Tasty

Used drive : hp DVD A DS8A5LH Adapter: 1 ID: 0

Read mode : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache : No
Make use of C2 pointers : No

Read offset correction : 6
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations : Yes
Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling : Not detected, thus appended to previous track

Used output format : Internal WAV Routines
Sample format : 44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo

TOC of the extracted CD

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    1  |  0:00.00 |  1:30.67 |         0    |     6816   
    2  |  1:30.67 |  3:26.08 |      6817    |    22274   
    3  |  4:57.00 |  3:02.47 |     22275    |    35971   
    4  |  7:59.47 |  3:26.60 |     35972    |    51481   
    5  | 11:26.32 |  4:25.73 |     51482    |    71429   
    6  | 15:52.30 |  3:25.70 |     71430    |    86874   
    7  | 19:18.25 |  4:24.60 |     86875    |   106734   
    8  | 23:43.10 |  3:44.70 |    106735    |   123604   
    9  | 27:28.05 |  4:00.02 |    123605    |   141606   
   10  | 31:28.07 |  3:23.33 |    141607    |   156864   
   11  | 34:51.40 |  3:24.25 |    156865    |   172189   
   12  | 38:15.65 |  4:45.05 |    172190    |   193569   
   13  | 43:00.70 |  3:51.20 |    193570    |   210914   
   14  | 46:52.15 |  4:35.22 |    210915    |   231561   
   15  | 53:59.37 |  5:54.23 |    242962    |   269534   

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And what does it now sound like when you play it back? That is the true test - the human ear. :wink:

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Strange that the “suspicious positions” are always at the same six-second interval… this smells of deliberately constructed errors :face_with_monocle:

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I gotta hear it tomorrow, as now my PC is occupied in extracting audio from Depeche Mode’s Violator, but it doesn’t look good:
image

Anyway, at first hearing, it sounded OK - I had some hiccups in track #2, but I think they’re related to my EAC doing the above extraction…
I’ll report back asap!

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In case EAC is that slow it is usually the best to cancel the extraction and start again (maybe with different drive settings). I usually skip tracks that are taking a long time to extract in the first pass and do a second pass later. Opening and closing the CD drive before trying again also fastens the process sometimes (although I have no precise idea why).

Actually I think the physical media itself must have some heavy issues. I mean: the CD is really old and it has been played an enormous amount of times (was in use in a radio broadcast station).
I’ve tried both EAC on Win and XLC on Mac - no success. Even playing the CD back on both systems led to no success…
Guess I’ll have to throw this copy away… :-/

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I think my record for leaving a CD to rip is 48 hours. One of the rotten 1990s PDC Blackburn CDs. An example of a bad disk: https://ia802901.us.archive.org/23/items/mbid-57996834-94cb-4bcd-8925-ebc1baff542f/mbid-57996834-94cb-4bcd-8925-ebc1baff542f-25909668748.jpg

When you hold a CD up like that up to the light and you can see the holes eaten in the metal… Yeah… you know EAC is going to have a hard time.

Or that Monty Python CD where the foam insert glued itself to the actual CD!! ARGH!

But EAC did miracles with these rips.

I do have to be honest that I kinda miss the fact I used to have to jump my CD player forward on that LKJ CD. The scratch on the disc was part of the album to me. EAC has removed that scratch and now I can play the album without the manic repeat.

A scratch on vinyl is chilled and slow… a scratch on a CD is manic :crazy_face:

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Did you try burst mode?

If that doesn’t do it, then yeah, it’s probably done.