Featured artist in release titles

Some editors are concerned about the removal of featured artists from Release titles.
https://musicbrainz.org/edit/50159712
https://musicbrainz.org/edit/50159292
I’d like to know more about their concerns and see where a wider discussion might go.
Hence this thread.

The featured artist wasn’t removed. But it looks removed instead of moved because it was added in a different edit.
Move = remove from X and add place in Y

He did the correct thing according to the MB rules. Other places have their rules. We have ours. We do things according to ours.

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*I’m actually concerned that some of those edits will cause a failed dependency.

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The direction of the edits look good to me.

What I am asking for is more about the concerns of editors who see things differently to the current guidelines.

Maybe those guidelines are good enough around this issue. Or maybe they can be improved.

The disagreeing editors are the people who may be able to show us how the guidelines can be improved.

I am not concerned about someone wanting to do what last.fm does. That’s a silly argument.

I don’t know who, when, or why the rules were made. But it makes total sense to me that a song title is a song title and not a song title plus artist. If the title includes the artist, who is the artist?

In most situations “that a song title is a song title and not a song title plus artist” makes good sense to me too.
However maybe the editors who disagree can see something we can’t.
Something that would be good to include in the style guidelines.
If the MB editor community thought that they were pointing out something that was important about song titles the guideline could be changed.

I’m pretty sure there’s a Picard plugin that moves the featured artist back to the song title.

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hello,
Personally, I think the featuring should stay in the title for two reason :

  • Its easier to dissociate the original track and the featured
  • Its easier to do track recognition with picard because when you download the song, most of them have the feat included in the title. So if you removed it, picard will not find the song in the database.

I think rules can change. Maybe MusicBrainz rule about featuring was made a long time ago, when there wasn’t so much featuring work. I mean, in electronic music, we know a lot of song only when they are featured with some dj…so its in our culture to have the featuring in the title…

This was made in 2011 specifically to give actual proper credit to featured artists :slight_smile:

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okey thx, and is there a thread where this question was debated ?

@yuioen - have a look into Picard’s plugins. There is one in there called “Feat. Artist in Titles” that will put things back as you want them.

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Just wanted to say thanks to @yuioen - I made a few notes on their edits and they have been very responsive in fixing the issues I pointed out, even though they may not agree with them.

I remember when I first started submitting releases and the style guidelines often seemed strange/wrong, but after a while I realised that people with a lot more experience have spent a significant amount of time and effort writing them. That’s not to say they should be set in stone, and there will be always be corner cases, but I’m yet to see any rules that I think require major changes.

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