Entering related works feels inefficient


#1

I have a lot of surround sound (5.1) discs and as i go through the database i see that most of the 5.1 tracks don’t have related works. After doing about 5 of them i now know why.

For Jethro Tull’s “Minstrel in the Gallery” ( https://musicbrainz.org/release/270d7cd3-0f35-4268-b6d6-d5e4373237c4 ) i tried to add a related work for “Requiem”. I click the “add related work” and type “requiem” into the search box. I get this little dialog box that doesn’t yet contain the track i need. I hit “Show more …” and it puts more entries into the list. I scroll back up and look through again. Nope, not there. I hit “Show more …” again, scroll up to the top of the list and nope. I do this 8 more times and give up. Obviously, this is because “Requiem” is a very common title, while "Mother England Reverie: comes up right away.

You can only put a song title in here, and that’s the problem. Most of the time the results don’t indicate artists at all, so you don’t really know what you’re choosing.

Is there a better way to do this task? Is this actually a feature request? I can’t be the only one struggling with this.

Thanks.


#2

What I usually do is open a second browser window (tab) with the artist displayed. Going to the Works tab shows me an alphabetical list of the works associated with the artist. If I find the work I’m looking for, I copy the link address and paste it in the search box on the editing window (tab). If I don’t find the work on the artist page, then I know I need to add a new one.

Edit: I sometimes use the same process when looking up recordings, if it’s a common title with a long list of unrelated entries.


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#3

Would be cool if that lookup did a match (or maybe a fuzzy match) on the Artist. Common names are a mess when there are lots of artists that have recorded a track with the same name and you are almost never looking for a recording/work by a different artists


#4

I have been thinking exactly this for years.
I have each time been too lazy and used @rdswift technique without writing a ticket.


#5

A-ha! (the expletive, not the band) Thank you so much! Since there’s no indication that the search field takes anything other than a title, i didn’t even know you could do this. I’d bet most of us don’t know that either.

Thank you again, you’ve saved me hours of frustration.

Edit: i just noticed the words “or paste an” which are in light grey and cut off at my resolution, so i rescind some of this.


#6

As a side note, i wish people would put related works for 5.1 tracks in as they are entering in the release.

Also @jesus2099, i’ll make a ticket up since you’re sooooo lazy :stuck_out_tongue: (as soon as i figure out where to do that. Probably on a github account, unless Microsoft has ruined it since this morning)


#7

It’s actually https://tickets.metabrainz.org.


#8

So do I for (more or less) standard releases.

When it’s still hard to find –e.g. for classical sometimes– I use acoustID fingerprints from recordings, look if there are any other MB releases linked with this on LB and get to the related work(s).


#9

I’ll have to keep that in mind. I’ve done very little classical editing so far. I haven’t gotten to that part of my CD collection yet.


#10

So did I (again :wink: ) Just started with classical some month ago. The hardest part was at first, finding existing recordings (so much re-released compilations with other release group names). And later, how to find the possible correct work (e.g. recording is a partial [live] recording of work). @loujine GM tools did a great help for me to get the clue.


#11

The same works than used on mono and stereo tracks should be ok, no?
Or you mean 5.1 tracks tend to be less often linked to works than other tracks?


#12

Am I crazy or do I get better matching when I type in the work name + the artist?


#13

:thinking: I tried that out several times, but it didn’t seem to have any benefits on my particular searches, unfortunately.


#14

Here is the ticket I have created, at last!
https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-9739


#15

Yes, i meant that 5.1 tracks tend not to be linked properly. Most likely because it doesn’t auto-populate when you’re creating the listing initially, and folks can’t be bothered (unless they’re anal about their music collections).