Do I need to add a separate listing because of this?:

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I posted my album as an entry: https://www.discogs.com/master/3897496-Spirit-Flesh-Bone-Spirit-Flesh-Bone

It has as follows:
-Digital version (https://www.discogs.com/release/33797607-Spirit-Flesh-Bone-Spirit-Flesh-Bone)
-Cassette version (https://www.discogs.com/release/34425097-Spirit-Flesh-Bone-Spirit-Flesh-Bone)

I have an uploaded version on my Google Drive, which is the Cassette rip with some fixes. Do I have to include this as a new entry, or could I still have this be considered the Cassette version? Like I said, it has fixes and as such, there are differences between the “Cassette version” and the “Google Drive fixes” version; is this enough to be considered not the same?

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No no, just keep the real cassette release on MB.
We don’t need everyone’s custom compilations or rips. :wink:

I’m not sure you should leave your personal rip share URL on Discord, either.

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Ah, you’re the artist?
Then you don’t need to rip the cassette, you should have the original files, already.

What’s different between the cassette rip and the digital medium release?

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Hello!

The relevant guidelines for this are at Style / Release - MusicBrainz - see the “When to add just one release” and “When to add multiple releases” sections.

IMO: A digital release (Google Drive) would typically be considered separate from physical media (cassette) in MusicBrainz. If the Google Drive version is always distributed with the cassette (say as a download card included in the cassette packaging), I think it could probably be treated as a second, digital “medium” attached to the cassette release (analogous to a CD box set with multiple disks).

However, if it’s not exclusively distributed as a bundle item with the physical cassette, I’d lean toward entering it as a separate release.

(Since the Google Drive version track listing splits “Tandem” and “Lunar Hotel”, I don’t think it probably ought to be treated as a variation of the digital release already in MusicBrainz, which combines those tracks.)

Also might be useful to know about MusicBrainz’s ArtistIntent guideline, which basically means MusicBrainz tends to defer to artists’ stated goals even if they don’t strictly follow the other typical style guidelines.

Thank you for listing your music, and welcome! :slightly_smiling_face:

I love that you found a cassette the same color as Phos’s hair, BTW.

ETA: Tangential question - is this the right artist for the ‘Iggy’s Art’ credit for the cover of the digital version? Looks likely but couldn’t confirm. Thanks! @iggys-art on Tumblr

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Digital is 5 songs.
Cassette is 6 due to the 3rd being split.

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Hey there! So sorry for the late responses fellas!

  1. I made a separate release since I was told via Discogs, I just wasn’t sure honestly.
  2. Also, you’re an HNK fan? haha
  3. That should be the Tumblr yes.

What should I do then?

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Hello!

  1. Looks good, only small note is since the artwork changed since the initial upload, it’s technically two “releases” in MusicBrainz terms, one current and one “Withdrawn”: different cover art generally means a new ‘release’, even if it’s just an update. (Replied to you about that a bit more over here.)
  2. Yes, I love it! (Only saw the show, never read it.) Fun coincidence, I’d already started replying to your post when I realized. :grin:
  3. Great, thanks! I added the links to the artist entry for Iggy’s Art.

What should I do then?

Your data entry looks good to me! I can offer a few bits of info if you want, but IMO none of this is critical (and bear in mind I’m not a truly reliable source, I’m just another editor):

(click to expand, collapsed this since it was wordy)
  • Probably the Drive version and possibly the tape version could have the “This release does not have a barcode” checked. (I don’t know if there’s a barcode on one of the tape booklet panels that’s not in the photo.)
  • Another possible tip is the artwork credits - I saw you’d added them to the annotations, and I’ve copied those to relationships. (Those can be edited in the “Edit Relationships” tab on the release pages.) The credits in the annotations could now potentially be removed as redundant if you want.
  • When uploading album artwork, it’s best to upload the highest resolution version available so the picture is crisp. For instance, this cover looks fuzzier compared to this copy from Bandcamp.
  • I see there are versions of these releases on Spotify and Tidal. Info from those services can be filled in too (external links; ISRC codes). Since there are already the Bandcamp versions in MusicBrainz, it’s basically a matter of tracking down any pieces of information that can be gleaned from Spotify and Tidal and adding it to the MusicBrainz entries. I have to go to bed, but I can look at filling that in sometime when I have some more free time. Often people use an external “seeder” tool like https://harmony.pulsewidth.org.uk/ to help with entering releases from those services.
    • Whether the Bandcamp versions should be combined or listed separately from the Spotify/Tidal versions depends on the criteria listed here.
  • I’m not sure if you’re familiar with the edit history, but it can be handy to learn about editing MusicBrainz or if you’re wondering why a specific change was made, you can see what sources or explanation the original editor entered for the change. That’s in the “Editing history” link in the sidebar.

I’m enjoying the album, by the way - listened a few times now and played a couple tracks for a friend!

Thank you again for entering your music!

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Thank you for your kind words!

The album took about 2 to 3 years to make.

When it came to reading the story, I had some issues [like skim reading and such] and thanks to a friend, I was able to understand it.

I’d kinda say, making music and writing lyrics has helped me understand it sort of? Not sure.

Thank you, as mentioned.

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Sorry for bringing this post up again.

I had changed the bitrate on all my music via Bandcamp (24/44 to 16/44.)

Do I need to make another separate listing? I put an annotation at least.

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No, we don’t make new releases just for bitrate changes.

P.S. Out of interest, why the change?

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Just to make sure it’s all consistent. It’s still high quality audio, yes?

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For sure! Personally I don’t really care about something being 16/ or 24/44, both are outrageously high quality. Nonetheless technically it seems like a downgrade so I was curious.

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Well, a downgrade yeah, but for me, I usually downscale 24 to 16 to save space. I don’t have crazy equipment so I’m usually OK and can’t hear a difference. Selfish, yeah, but I ultimately wanted my stuff consistent.

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You can upload the original high bit depth files to the nonprofit Internet Archive (archive.org) if space is the issue. They don’t charge money. I upload tons of my music there in lossless high res and they have never fussed at me about space.

FWIW it can be useful to keep the high bit depth files even though they sound the same, since if you ever do digital remastering, remixing, other editing etc, a 24 bit or 32 bit file can be edited a lot more before the sound starts audibly degrading than 16 bit can. :slight_smile:

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