Delete wrong disc ID?

if i understand disc IDs correctly, both the number of tracks and the track lengths (disregarding rounding differences) should be the same, right?

i had checked ahead of time and saw B1A4 - Let’s Fly didn’t already have a disc ID, but when i put my CD in picard said it matched with the ID attached to their album It B1A4 instead. the track lengths are very different, so i’m assuming it was accidentally attached to the wrong album and would probably be fine to remove? the user who added it only ever made a handful of edits, the last one being from almost a year ago so i don’t think making a note on their edit would get a response

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It’s always good to ask the original editors.

Please link here, maybe we can understand.

“Same as”… what? If you mean, when a disc ID is attached to a Release entry, the number of tracks in the disc ID should match the number of tracks in the Release entry, and the length of each track in the disc ID (disregarding rounding) should be the same as the length of the corresponding track in the Release entry, then Yes.

In my experience, this assumption is often wrong. MusicBrainz contributors are often wonderful and diligent people, and respond to edit notes even years after the edit occurred. I suggest you try an edit note first.

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ahh sorry meant to put the links and forgot! release that already had the disc ID:

the release i own and added the same disc ID to:

i guess i can try leaving a note and sending them an email through their MB profile?

what’s interesting is the album i have is their debut album, and the one the disc ID was originally attached to is their 2nd. they both have 6 tracks. but It B1A4 should be a bit shorter in total than Let’s Fly

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yes, that’s what i meant, thank you! so if two releases have the same disc ID, the number of tracks and the track lengths would also be the same. in this case the track lengths for the 2 releases should be different so should have 2 different IDs then

what i meant was the last time they edited anything was almost a year ago and they don’t seem to be active on MB itself or here on the forum, but i’ll try to get in touch with them anyway in case they’re just very quiet haha

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I would still try. I get a response from similarly inactive users more often than I would have thought.

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Seems there is also mixed up AcoustIDs for the tracks. Same ones are on the tracks for both albums.

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Now you can remove the disc ID and put the removal edit link in the original add edit.
The original editor will have 1 week to react, of still around.
But your removal seems logical.

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I have unlinked those AcoustID.
Both albums have been confused at one point, yes.
It shows, also based on track times and source totals of 1.

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Compare to the Spotify lengths and you seem fairly correct on the “wrong DiscID” idea.

I got distracted by a totally different version of Let’s Fly listed on Wikipedia… but blame lack of coffee

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i don’t think i quite understand AcoustID (or ISRC) yet so thanks so much for the help!

Wikipedia’s times are so off haha. there shouldn’t be any other version of the album, and checking on Korean streaming sites/wikis, none of them have the title track “O.K” at even close to 4 minutes. the music video is 4:13 so i’m guessing that’s what someone based the time off of, but the mv has sections before/after the song itself. i might as well edit that too lol

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And my smartphone completely smashed my post.
What I meant was: I have unlinked those [wrong] AcoustID. Both albums have been confused

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I often encounter problem with a on of different Disc IDs liked to the release.

It would be great to have some sort of status for them or some kind of linkage to the matrix for example or ifpi code like:

Disc ID: 7EsWECchUvmtgCgd60ocYH2GKaM-

linked to

Matrix / Runout: [Universal logo 4x] 06025 272 739-6 01 :eight_spoked_asterisk: 52462989
Matrix / Runout- inner ring: Made in Germany by EDC A
Mastering SID Code: IFPI LV26
Mould SID Code: IFPI 0116

Disc ID: rnsQZ1185XeeF3xbJKlwo5U8q4E-

linked to

Matrix / Runout: [Universal logo 4x] 06025 272 739-6 01 :eight_spoked_asterisk: 52462989
Matrix / Runout - inner ring: Made in Germany by EDC A
Mastering SID Code: IFPI LV26
Mould SID Code: IFPI 0150

so there will be some type of anchor that will connect Disc ID to physical origin of it. and can be checked against discogs for example

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Multiple Disc ID are possible on one release, it’s only because and for a transition from multiple edition releases to NGS.
Since NGS, each release should represent only one edition and one Disc ID.

Many releases were not cleaned up after NGS migration, yet.

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There is a ticket to better link matrix details and discIDs one day. For now the “check against discogs” means look at a release, the attached DiscID and Discogs link.

Some of us have started adding matrix details to a release, and any time I do this I will always add that matching DiscID to the matrix\mastering\mould\discID as a set. (Examples from today: Release “Hanna” by The Chemical Brothers - MusicBrainz and Release “Blue Velvet” by Angelo Badalamenti - MusicBrainz )

As to the “ton of DiscIDs link to a release” - as @jesus2099 says, these tend to be some of the older releases back from when the database was organised in a different way and people also didn’t know to properly check DiscIDs. Used to accept some dubious sources in the past which wouldn’t be trusted now.

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I would love to do this but is there a proper implementation in place or use of desciption is the only way?

Currently description is the only way. Changes happen via the ticket system, but the number of devs is small and time drags them in many directions. So for now we have nowhere to put matrix details except for in the annotation.

I would love to have a neat little home for this data. Their own place in the database.

If you know of Discogs and Matrix details, it is interesting to see how a DiscID can last for decades at one set of factories. Often out lasting multiple owners of a factory.

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