Audio Drama Guidelines: Recordings

Could I get some guidance on recordings for audio dramas?

I’ve created: Doctor Who: The Ninth Doctor Adventures: Star-Crossed

On this, I set up each episode as a recording, and tagged each track as a “partial” of this recording.

It seemed to me that an episode is a recording, because I doubt the studio recordings lined up with each track (and we can’t know if they recorded the entire episode in one recording), therefore the best fit seemed to be to create a recording per episode, rather than per track.

But, if this isn’t right, I’d appreciate some feedback on how others structure Radio Play recordings/tracks.

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Not quite. You need 11 separate recordings. And then each part is ticked as a “Partial” recording of the work.

Don’t link all 11 recordings to a single recording like you have done. Each part is a recording of its own.

An example: https://musicbrainz.org/release/63a832a3-7777-4175-8697-8aa2b1cf8430

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Thanks for that, I’ll tidy that up and use that as a template going forward. If there’s any other things you think I should change, happy to do that, I’d like to help with plenty of DW audios so I can use it as a metadata source for my audios, just figuring out a co

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Doctor Who has had quite a focused effort on getting them into place correctly. Probably because there are so many. Looking at the Big Finish label is a good place to get templates to follow.

Also notice that there are many Doctor Who Release Group series too. Check out the bottom of the Release Group and you’ll spot them.

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Welcome! I love editing audiobooks and audio dramas on MB, and I feel like the database has so much potential for these. Lovely to have you wiht us.

Re your edits, excellent work! I can see you’re already adding works, with all the different tracks as ‘partial recording of’ relationships, too good. Be cautious of moving too fast with style changes or things that you are unsure of - one of the worst things that can happen here is to be happily editing for days/weeks/years in a corner, and then have community consensus go against it. We lose excellent editors that way. It’s always good to raise things you’re unsure of before going in heavy with the edits.

In terms of feedback, one thing that would be nice is if your edit notes contained your source - sometimes it’s just pasting a Discogs link in or writing “in hand”, but it seems like you have the original files for a lot of these. If that’s the case a comment like:
“my files, bought from \https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-ninth-doctor-adventures-star-crossed-2827”
Lets everyone know your source (an impeccable one, in the above case).
The same goes for images, e.g. paste in the source URL, or “from file tags”/“included in download”

Equally useful is the addition of external links to releases, where they exist, e.g.

Hope that’s helpful! Stay in touch :smiley:

Thanks for that feedback, yes I have original files for practically all big finish digital releases. I’ll be sure to add sources to the edit notes. Thanks for that feedback!

I totally agree on checking in before mass editing. With that in mind, I’ve created:

I wonder if you could have a review, and see if I’ve fit what is currently the consensus, if it’s good, I’ll use that as my template going forward.

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Looking amazing @ElDubs! I might have missed something, but my notes:

  1. imo the artist should be:
    Lisa McMullin, Mark Wright & Matt Fitton starring Christopher Eccleston & Lisa Bowerman
    (instead of Lisa McMullin, Mark Wright, Matt Fitton, starring Christopher Eccleston & Lisa Bowerman)

  2. (After removing the comma before “starring” in the tracklist credits) you can edit the release, go to the recordings tab, and then check ‘Copy all track artist credits to associated recordings.’ and save. Since the tracklist recording credits seem to be more accurate:
    image

  3. You can set the release group primary type to ‘other’ (Other + Audio Drama)
    I’m not sure why the release group has dashes instead of colons in the title - I can see that has been done for a few Dr Who releases, but from the looks of it it should all be colons, as you’ve done for the release.

  4. There’s no rule for this, but I like to enter blurbs in the annotation in quotation marks (you also have to be aware that blurbs written by publishers/artists can be (c) so the rules say that we should not be entering them/editors may remove them - but in my private capacity as an editor I often add them :oncoming_police_car: ).
    Then you can add any actual release-data notes (usually, when I’m editing, noting credits that can’t 100% be captured in relationships) there without confusion.

I might have missed something, but honestly this looks far better and more comprehensive than my entries :stuck_out_tongue:

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Thanks for that!

I’ve updated the structure of the credits to match that comma structure, and updated the release group primary type to “Other”. Some of these are waiting for the 7 day edit period.

Yeah I figured blurbs might be a grey area (Personally I feel this should be transformative fair use, but we won’t play that legal game), but it’s such a valuable part of metadata that I hope Big Finish won’t try enforcing it. At any rate, I’ve enclosed this in quotation marks. If it does become an issue, so be it.

Appreciate the feedback! Hopefully from there I should be good to start using that as a template going forward.

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Changes approved - you should be able to propagate the track credits to the recordings as well now (point 2 in my previous reply).

Wonderful to have you as a contributor :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

Oh I see what you mean now, I’d misread what you meant by propagating the track credits. I’ve updated that now.

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