I pulled all my music into Picard and now I have a nice bunch of orderly clusters. Is there any way to save the actual clusters so that my music would then be sorted into artists folders?
Iâve never actually done this, but I think you can select a cluster (if it equates to an album) and click Lookup. Picard will try to match a release in the database and shows you a list of what is returned. You can then select the appropriate album (aka âreleaseâ) from the list and tag / file / rename the files accordingly.
Edit: I pretty much always start by having Picard lookup the CD in the drive, then rip the files and use Add Folder to match them up.
What rdswift said is the main purpose of Picard: You lookup clusters to get metadata from MusicBrainz and save this.
But you can also just save clusters, this will just use your existing tags, but will also use the renaming. Just make sure you have renaming and moving of files enabled. Also choose a destination folder in the options.
Just to clarify this, you can save any data youâve added to files in clusters, but you canât save which files a cluster contains. For Picard, clusters are only a temporary grouping intended to help Lookup be more accurate; they donât have any meaning on their own. What does have meaning, though, is the releases (albums) Lookup â or Scan or manual assignment, but those donât really benefit from clusters â matches your files with. Those are the groups Picard will wind up sorting your files back into the next time you open them, and those are (usually) what it uses to look up information from the database.
The one issue youâll run into is if you have any mixtapes your friend gave you or any playlists youâve put together with their own files. Picard does its matching by saving the albumâs ID, but in order for it to have one to save, the release needs to be on MusicBrainz. We donât have anywhere near as strict notability requirements as Wikipedia, but we do prefer an amount of distribution beyond just being passed around a circle of friends. Without that, thereâs not really any good way to keep the files grouped; Iâve wound up just matching those tracks of mine to âstandalone recordingsâ and only opening one personal album folder at a time. I can give you more information about that if you need it, but otherwise itâs pretty much unnecessary noise.
The one issue youâll run into is if you have any mixtapes your friend gave you or any playlists youâve put together with their own files.
I have a LOT of these mixtapes. I am woprking on retagging, renaming, and re-sorting all my music (about 60 GB) from files only (no library info from iTunes etc), and would like these songs to be sorted into their respective artist/album folders. And yes, I realize Iâll have many incomplete album folders, but more often than not there will be at least a few songs in each album folder.
This is all fine and great, but I run into a problem because I ALSO want to maintain that mixtape grouping somehow (ideally as a playlist in iTunes/other). Is there a way to get to that point automatically?
Iâve thought about maybe assigning the clustered folder name as a custom tag for each song in that folder, but I have no idea how to write that script, if a music player would be able to utilize those tags to create a playlist, or if it could so, how to find all the mix-tapes and turn them into playlists.
Hmm, not sure if itâs worth tagging files that were maybe always destined to be a mess/in their own group, but up to you.
You could try:
First, back up your music folder.
- Create a folder on your desktop, eg âMusicâ, and make sure Picard is set to move your files into there when saving.
- Drag 1 mixed folder into Picard, eg âDaveâs Cool Mixâ.
- Use âLookupâ or "scanâ or whatever you would prefer to match the files in âDaveâs Cool Mixâ, and hit save. Now they should all be sent into their respective folders in âMusicâ on the desktop.
- Now pull the âMusicâ folder into your music player (eg Foobar 2000), right click > create playlist. Save the playlist file into âMusicâ, call it âDaveâs Cool Mixâ or whatever.
- Rename the âMusicâ folder on the Desktop. Perhaps âMusic 1â. Create another âMusicâ folder.
- Repeat the steps above for each mixed folder, creating a new folder on the desktop each time
- Once youâve done that, copy the contents of all the âMusic 1, 2 etcâ folders on the Desktop into the last âMusicâ folder, including the playlist files. Say âyesâ to merging duplicate folders and files.
Now all of your music should be in 1 folder, tagged, and your playlists should work.
If you mess with the folder structure, eg move playlist files around, the playlists will break, so be careful.
Complicated, but might be your best shot!
not sure if itâs worth tagging files that were maybe always destined to be a mess/in their own group, but up to you.
Great point. Thing is my friend compiles some great mix-tapes that flow really well. It has become nostalgic to hear the songs in that order.
You could try:
Seems like it would work great, but two problems: itâs not automatic (I know, I know, but I have LOTS of these and they arenât organized well). More importantly, though, some of these mixtapes arenât even grouped together anymore. Fortunately, the cluster feature of Picard does a pretty good job of getting them all back together.
The downside to that is that they are now âhiddenâ amongst thousands of other clustered albums that are NOT mixtapes. This makes them really hard to find so that I can follow the steps you outlined.
Any other ideas, automated or not?
Maybe someone is going to really wipe the floor with me on this one, but I reckon thatâs as close to automated as youâre going to get!
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So the album tags on them are something like âDaveâs Cool Mixâ?
In that case you can hit âclusterâ, enable the âmove filesâ function in Picard, and then just save the cluster (without using âLookupâ or âScanâ first). It will move the album cluster into a folder with the same name as the album tag. Then you can follow the steps above (or just leave them in their own folder).
Yeah, not really any particular solutions here. I remember seeing a plugin that was able to create playlist files, but I think it operated on releases rather than clusters and so wouldnât help here, even if my memory of it not actually working on the current version is wrong. Beyond that, I can only really suggest ways to keep the mixtapes sorted into their own folders (are they really that different from official Various Artists compilations?), which you explicitly say you donât want. If I ever get around to coding the music player Iâve had bouncing around my head, that is one of the features Iâm planning to include, but thatâs still far in the future. Sorry I canât be more help!