Proposed text for definition of "Soundtrack" on Release Group /Type documentation

It’s common for a label to intentionally release a soundtrack in separate parts (e.g., Vol. 1, Vol. 2…), and it would be the intention of the label that these are a soundtrack to a specific thing. Therefore, I don’t think adding “complete” is an accurate discriminator.

What’s been said by the Style Leader is more along the lines of,

A compilation of various recordings from unrelated soundtracks would not itself be a soundtrack - just a compilation.

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A good point, but my request was to emphasise that there’s just one and it’s the whole thing and parts of it (e.g. singles ) can’t be treated as soundtracks.

open to alternative words…

Do you have an example
please?

My reason for suggesting to include the word complete is that the text without it doesn’t convey to me the basic concept of what a soundtrack is. That’s my opinion as someone not previously involved in debate.

How about “published” instead of “complete?”

I’ve found a few video game soundtracks that come in volumes. Haven’t found any from movies (also found a bunch of stuff that shouldn’t be marked as soundtracks).

Here’s a search:
Search results - MusicBrainz

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and the majority of Japanese anime.

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isn’t published a state of the album? eg released / unreleased. what about “entire”?

I think “complete” or “entire” is far too high a requirement It’s not just “not every second” - parts of the score may be missing for copyright reasons, e.g. Zabriskie Point (Stones song missing), or lack of capacity of the medium, e.g. Koyaanisqatsi (only half of the tracks compared to the film).

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Here are some from streaming shows:

Stranger Things (Netflix):

Watchmen (HBO):

Both sets just cover single seasons, I believe.

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Not sure on this. I’d guess it depends. The counter is true. Many soundtrack albums that include complete songs while only part maybe heard in the film. However, isn’t it what is released on the soundtrack ‘album’ that defines the soundtrack, not what is heard in the film / concert etc?

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So the stranger things list is three releases and three separate soundtracks. Not one…

Depends on what is defined to be a soundtrack. :smile:
But in most cases it’s not complicated, as you can read on the cover that it’s a “soundtrack”.
What seems to cause the most problems: it is not explained that “soundtrack” does not affect the individual parts. And the misleading examples for “soundtrack artists” that are no soundtracks at all. (→ https://musicbrainz.org/edit/106437396 )

What would you suggest?

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Don’t focus on one word. A soundtrack is music from a film/show/game. Most soundtrack CDs are only a small part of the film audio. Bootlegs come along and fill in the gap and rip every little part from a film. (So rules out using words like “Official”)

“Complete” \ “Entire” and words like that are misleading as copyright and other issues stop the music from bring complete. It is a collection of audio from a film, but not necessarily all of the audio.

I recommend to return to the dictionary. Soundtrack - Wikipedia

And with current edits as an example, need to point towards it being for one film and not a compilation of tracks from multiple films.

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The proposed text is just fine. I would not suggest to add words like “complete” or “entire”.
And we should look for better soundtrack artist examples, taken from soundtrack RGs.

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I read the Wikipedia article and it makes sense to me. I agree a soundtrack with being for one film, but how are compilations of songs from various soundtracks to be handled?

In my understanding I would say a compilation made up of tracks from movies is just a compilation.

I worked on this today:

I would not see that as a soundtrack.

If MB are not going to call a Single released from a movie a “Soundtrack”, then why would MB call a collection of these singles a “Soundtrack”?

The only time I would say you can have a Compilation Soundtrack is when you have a box like this with three soundtracks inside.

That is a compilation of three separate soundtracks.

In the edit in question it is currently 11 to 1 against calling that collection a soundtrack. Only one person is in favour of calling that a soundtrack. Music from movies does not instantly make it a soundtrack.

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I should also say I will contradict myself. In my OWN collection I will be adding a Soundtracks genre to that Film 4 CD and sticking in on the shelf alongside my other Soundtracks. But then my own collection does not have to follow MB guidelines. :grin:

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I’ve made further revisions to hopefully eliminate some of the ambiguities that have been mentioned. Please see post #9 above.

Please suggest improved text if something doesn’t seem clear.

(Please let me know if the strikethroughs are confusing. I wanted people to see before/after text, but it gets a little busy. :slight_smile: )

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No issues at all with the version in post #9, looks like a big improvement to me!

I don’t know if it’s just me, but another thing that comes up every now and again, and I am unsure about, soundtracks for unreleased media, or ‘fictional’ soundtracks.
A soundtrack for a unreleased game or film, I mark them as soundtrack.
Trickier, for me, are fictional soundtracks. These come in two flavours, a ‘unofficial’ soundtrack for something that does exist (example: a fan soundtrack for a real book), or a soundtrack for a book/film/story that only exists in the musicians head, or the music ‘canon’ (example: a ‘grindhouse style soundtrack’ for a film that doesn’t exist).

Perhaps these examples could be added as well? If it gets into the weeds/slows it down then I would prefer the current proposal be added, and this be added separately and maybe in a separate thread :slight_smile:

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I misunderstood the vote. Apologies.