Notes from #MetaBrainz Meeting on 2016-08-15

[Freso]

MetaBrainz Meeting 2016-08-15

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Agenda

• Reviews
• GSoC Final Evaluations
• MeB PR #234/MEB-38
• URLs cleanup tests MBS-6378 & URLs standardisation MBS-9044
• Splitting Discourse’s MB category
• deferred to next meeting

Reviews

@Freso

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@Freso

In the last two weeks, I…
Did my monthly invoice on time (), dealt with some reported editors, and was around and about.
Finished off the last week at Musik over Præstø Fjord 2016 - MusicBrainz and updated Discourse when I got home.
Spent most of this week doing a school tour and some “open house” stuff with my former dance school.
I also had a lot of additional downtime this week due to replacing the disk in my laptop (120→480 GB), which also involved a file system change (ext4→btrfs) and an encryption schema change (just /home→basically all of /), so it wasn’t as straight forward as just dd dumping from one disk to the other.
Combined with the dance school stuff, this disk dance took a couple days longer than it had to, but it seems to work smoothly now.
I also got a bunch of e-mails from DuckDuckGo that they had accepted some !bangs I had submitted a while ago: MusicBrainz and DuckDuckGo !bangs
Basically, DDG now has !bangs for everything the search in the upper-right corner of https://musicbrainz.org/ can search for.
I also gave QuoraUK and gcilou access to the MetaBrainz YouTube channel, so now we have:

• a video about BookBrainz’ achievements system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEZROTq1lY0
• published gcilou’s video tutorial on the MB relationship editor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Koaa7vsTCFo
• playlists for different MeB projects: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClC89t81khDKLCVs45prLqg/playlists (still need more videos to be properly populated, but it’s a start :))

@Rob

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@Rob

I mostly worked on the musicbrainz-vm, which I hope to ship a beta of.
then I worked with armalcolite on the LB reviews.
I had a chat with Wikimedia, who is keenly interested in our business model.
that was odd and delightful all at the same time.
then I did some emails, biz dev shit and a some minor docker things.

@reosarevok

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@reosarevok

I’m traveling around, was in Finland, now visiting family in Spain.
Last week I opened Merge vocals into instruments (STYLE-609)
More discussion welcome
This week, a fair amount of support. There’s a guy who keeps insisting I upload their picture
And says they refuse to create a wikimedia account and I should upload their image for them
Not gonna happen
Other than that no major issues
[T]hat’s been mostly it
That and I forgot Spanish people burn too and now I’m very red (ouch)
I’ll be here until the 24 so expect another relatively slow week next week

@bitmap

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@bitmap

still working on docker last week
fixed issues with the hot standby stuff which I didn’t test at first
got an smtp container working minus all the fancy tech that’ll prevent the emails from getting marked as spam
now I’m looking at consul-template this week at the suggestion of zas, which looks more convenient than m4 + make
and looking more into postfix stuff

@Gentlecat

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@Gentlecat

I reviewed GSoC stuff, merged a change to AB that allows to submit non-MBID data
reviewed MBS stuff, tried Docker containers there
and was finishing my AB work most of the time https://beta.acousticbrainz.org/challenges/14095b3b-4469-4e4d-984e-ef5f1a55962c

@zas

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@zas

I fixed a very nasty issue causing occasional packet loss on gateways (due to iptables conntrack limits and high traffic), it was possibly the cause of reported 504s (and other undetected issues). It required careful tuning of kernel sysctl values, but it looks like it works well now. I increased the global rate limit, as requested by ruaok
we are serving 700+ req/s (200s)
i resumed on docker stuff, mostly collecting documentation on infrastructure and admin tasks
i’m preparing the load balancer openresty container
which is the main part
use docker swarm + service discovery will be great

@ApeKattQuest_MonkeyPython

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@ApeKattQuest_MonkeyPython

Last week I did some instruments, as well as moving some “children of” rels to “subtypes” and “derivations”.
Next I participated in a community-post about descriptions and disambiguation Instruments with disambiguation comments - #7 by chirlu
That brought up translation questions: should disambiguations become translatable strings? how, (or why/why not?)
I agree with chirlu that descriptions being copypasta is problematic, and that perhaps they aught to be scrapped,
(but I think maybe they should be replaced by annotations/aliases/disambiguations? instead, see my comment on somewhat related style ticket as well as comments on the previous mentioned thread)
Then I created a task for myself to research how those pianos hang together, welcome to comment or watch that ticket! To close of last week, I obtained a frikken sweet title courtesy of reosarevok! yaay!
This week I’vn’t been able to add much - this week has gone by pretty fast with preparing for school that starts for me on the 24th, uncertainty about disambiguations, and fighting a cold:(
Next week will be much of the same, but I hope to continue to squeeze in some more instruments.
Now as the test.bookbrainz.org is finally up? I’ve been doing some testing there too, but I’m a bit blocked by @LordSputnik always being away when I have Paste.ee - megabluptest to tell him

@rahulr

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@rahulr

Fixed some rebase issues between track and album search dialogs. Opened up a PR.
Mostly worked on getting covers displayed in the album dialog.
Also most of my SoC work got merged into master last week.

@Quora

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@Quora

So all of my branches are mostly ready to merge, a few already have been
just need checking over now
Got the video of the system sorted
and blog post mostly ready
Just some tidy up and testing to go now

@kartikgupta0909

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@kartikgupta0909

Last week I worked on the code for evaluation of a dataset on a user machine
Done with the basic version
Need to get the pending PRs for the server API merged
and then modify the evaluator script to use them instead of reading the datasets from files

@armalcolite

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@armalcolite

This week was spent in rebasing the playing_now branch and then resolving a lot of issues. Issues that got introduced both via merge-conflicts and user_id schema change.
Then fixiing the tests, which had a wierd problem. They were failing because of no reason. I spent lot more time fixing them than i anticipated. But success!!
I spent a lot of time testing the new API(api_compat), hoping all the bugs get resolved before merge in the master.
And a simple addition, now api_compat’s playing_now gets updated as per the duration of the song.
And, my GSoC work got merged. Yippee!!

GSoC Final Evaluations

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@Freso

This is the week where our students have to submit their Final Evaluations. (Submission time started same time as meeting.) Hopefully all students are all set and all but ready to submit, but just in case you’re not, mentors should be aware that there’s a hard deadline coming, so please be available for your students!
(Mentors’ final evaluations start next week, so I’ll ping again then. ;))
So this is just a heads up. I’ll keep an eye on submissions during during the week.

MeB PR #234/MEB-38

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@Gentlecat pointed out some flaws in our current logo text a while back and has gone ahead and fixed these issues. MusicBrainz and CritiqueBrainz were changed some time ago.

@Rob argued that the current logo text is “quirky” and makes the *Brainz projects more unique, less “type of people to wear suits” like.

6 people chimed in that they preferred @Gentlecat’s revised versions, 1 was neutral, and 1 preferred Monkey.Do’s original.

URLs cleanup tests MBS-6378 & URLs standardisation MBS-9044

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URLs cleanup tests MBS-6378

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@yvanz has been doing a lot of work on the URL Cleanup component of the MusicBrainz Server code, but is currently held back by the lack of validation tests. He has been working on this in MBS-6378 but needed feedback about how to progress: 1) make a series of changes to change tests to a new system graudally, or 2) do one big (“flag day”) change/pull request to change it all in one go.

Meeting consensus was that the flag day change would be preferable if possible.

URLs standardisation MBS-9044

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MBS-9044 is about standardisation of iTunes URLs to using a geo.itunes.com domain which will redirect a user to their regional/local iTunes store for a given album/Release(/Recording/Artist/…?). However, as geo.itunes.com has been reported to sometimes redirect to a different iTunes id and since there can be regional differences between releases, more research/data is wanted before we decide to either standardise to geo.itunes.com or away from it. For now we’ve decided to not touch them.

There was also some discussion in general about how to approach URL standardisation questions (e.g., changing of standardisation), and the approach recommended is creating a ticket in the ticket tracker and/or bringing it up in the weekly #MetaBrainz meeting. The primary thing needed to be decided is usually whether to change existing URLs silently (ie., just edit the database directly) or to generate edits for changing the URLs (potentially causing a lot of subscription “noise”).

[yvanzo]

@On URLs standardisation

geo.itunes.com

actually is geo.itunes.apple.com