Notes from #MetaBrainz Meeting 2024-11-25

[aerozol]

Meeting start: IRC Logs for #metabrainz | MetaBrainz Chatlogs
Meeting wiki page: MetaBrainz Meeting - MusicBrainz Wiki

Agenda

• Reviews
• X-odus
• block temp email domains
• docker-server-configs

Last meeting: 2024-11-18
Next meeting: 2024-12-02

@reosarevok: Welcome to another MetaBrainz Monday Meeting!

Reviews

@atj

[mailed in] Last week I worked on fixing some GitHub CI issues with the Solr and ZooKeeper Ansible roles. I was then able to test various changes in my development branches and merge them.
I also created a couple of branches in our main Ansible repo, one for resolving some deprecation warnings and another in preparation for the Solr 9.7.0 upgrade. These will be raised as PRs this week. 2. 2.

@outsidecontext

[mailed in] Last week I had little time, I’m currently alone with the kids. Also I fell sick on the weekend, but already feeling a bit better today. Managed to do some support on the forums and some code review today, though.

@derat

[mailed in] Not much to report this week. I updated yambs to allow bursting up to 5 requests in 5 seconds, so it should be a bit faster in cases where e.g. both artist and label URLs need to be looked up for Bandcamp releases.

@yvanzo

[mailed in] Last week, I kept mainly working on the Solr 9 mirror upgrade, unsuccessfully.
It is therefore postponed again until a new date is decided, likely next year.
Mirror owners don’t have to change anything in the meantime.
I’m taking a week off to keep myself from collapsing again.
I won’t connect to the chat but I will check the emails.

@aerozol

Just the usual, the one thing of note is that I delivered some finished designs to ansh for the LB homepage update
Sounds like he doesn’t foresee much difficulty so I’m looking forward to seeing the result!

@zas

Last week, I deployed changes on moroder & grafana to handle new LB status, it sends alerts to a new group on Telegram (we worked together with mayhem on this)
I also deployed a change on openresty on lucifer’s request to prepare for metabrainz oauth
plus usual maintenance, upgrades, supervision, user support, Picard PRs reviews, and MB edits.

@rob

[mayhem] last week was the usual background nonsense, but in particular working to get a supporter in Singapore signed.
I’m glad to have more supporters in the wings!
I also did a load of LB improvements, bug fixes, monitoring improvements that should make things a lot more stable.
we certainly are doing a better job of monitoring our services, but I have a long way to go before I am done.
we also had a board meeting, which was interesting, but not a whole lot of relevant stuff to report.
rassami, one of our board members, took a liking to me talking about positioning ourselves, so we’ve started working that, focusing on the rather tricky keywords of support, required, ethical and all that.
hopefully we will come up with some careful wording that will allow us to improve the metabrainz home page as well.
and I spent some time writing a cron-wrapper script that monitors the cron job and if it fails, it posts the last 1000 log lines to the aforementioned telegram channel. that should let us know about failing services soon and hopefully be able to resolve issues faster.

@bitmap

last week I did an MB prod release restoring image uploads, then investigated reports of images being unavailable for some releases
I deployed some additional logging to the artwork-indexer containers and found that images aren’t copied over when you merge releases anymore, because something at the IA broke
I contacted them a week ago but unfortunately haven’t gotten a response yet…currently 342 releases are affected. the only workaround for copying images between buckets would be downloading and re-uploading them ourselves
other than that I fixed an issue with the incremental JSON dumps’ replication (need to improve alerts for that too) and continued trying to get tests passing on github actions
also spent time testing the mb-solr upgrade on my musicbrainz-docker instance
[it is clarified that this is still the case, images not being copied on merge]

@reosarevok

Hi! I spent most of last week still working on the changes for the alias showing
Which is now available for test in https://test.musicbrainz.org/ (although a slightly old version with a known crash in some old edits, but still, mostly fine already, better once I get around to updating it)
Thanks to whoever has already been testing it and hit said crash, since I saw it in Sentry and wouldn’t have found it for a while myself!
I also spent some time trying to help yvanzo with the Solr thing, but we hit some issues as he mentioned
Other than that, the usual small tickets, new genres, little bit of banhammer, etc

@ApeKattQuest_MonkeyPython

[ApeKattQuest] Slowly working on the ektars!
and have finished the first part of the ektar work!
now working on the second part and thumbi
as well as more translations!

@kellnerd

Last week I started implementing support for relationships to the BB code which inserts imports into the database.
Looks like a simple task in theory with all the functions already being there for regular entities and only three mandatory attributes per relationship, but it isn’t.
With two of these attributes being the source and target entity BBID which we don’t know and require even more data to be inserted first, there is still quite a bit of work ahead until I have a version which I can even test.
Other than that I fixed two small issues with my userscript bundler, plus the usual Harmony support.

@julian45

This last week I did some more reading on proxmox (which I believe we were partway into discussing last week but had to leave partway finished since mayhem had to go to a board mtg)
I also did some testing on some security related tools zas and I were looking at (very exploratory stage, no changes anticipated for MeB infra at least for now) and ended up filing an upstream bug report for one of em
This week my time is a bit limited due to 'murican holidays but I am planning to continue the above + work on 2 things w/ our main Ansible repo: bringing compat up to date with current upstream support & linting where relevant

@Ashutosh_Aswal

[yellowhatpro] last week was not active. Got up early tode to find rustynova’s comment. Ack his suggestion, added test to the draft PR I created, and fixed a bug which was causing failing tests.

@anshgoyal31

[ansh] Last week, I worked on implementing some new designs for the homepage.
Other than that, I worked on some final touches on the donation flairs PR.
and fixed bugs causing 500 error on some artist pages, and worked on some tickets.

X-odus

@reosarevok

I talked with aerozol and mayhem recently about prioritizing our Bluesky and Mastodon over Xitter on the footer etc
(for which suvid sent a PR already, thanks! it’s at MBS-13820: Added links to Mastodon and Bluesky in the footer by Suvid-Singhal · Pull Request #3411 · metabrainz/musicbrainz-server · GitHub)
I was wondering, are we considering dropping Twitter entirely? Seems all the cool kids are doing it

It is agreed to drop them. The plan is to keep them with a snarky farewell message and redirect to bsky/mastodon accounts.

Sorry to bIt is also agreed to create alternate accounts on bsky + mastodon for all the main projects (currently there is only MeB + LB on bsky).

Read the logs here.

block temp email domains

@reosarevok

I keep getting into situations where someone gets reported that would just require a quick email to defuse / improve
But I cannot write because it’s a temporary mail, which also explains why they ignore edit notes, etc

Pretty much everyone agrees with this. That temporary domains are useful for some situations, but not appropriate for MeB accounts. Read the logs here.

reosarevok - “no rush with it but I’ll put it on my list”

docker-server-configs

@rob

[mayhem] so, the LB team has been pretty poor about updating the docker configs before updating containers.
which makes it hard to find out which image of a container should be running. I even found an image running that had no reference in docker-server-configs at all.
this is a recipe for disaster. or disaster during disaster recovery.
I dont think we should really attempt to solve the problem here and now, but I would love to see if people have thought about this and how we could improve it.
LB uses github for building docker images, so there is likely a way that we could automate this, but…
it smacks of effort.

Technical discussion ensues, no decisions made yet. Read the logs here.

Absent: jasje (studying!), lucifer (1), akshaaatt (1)

[jesus2099]

@aerozol

X-odus

Ah, funny pun.
Should we also remove twitter.com and x.com URL relationships?

For some time now, it’s been impossible to see any content without account.

@aerozol

Read the logs 5403724 .

Wrong link to 5403761
It should be https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/libera/metabrainz/msg/5403724

[aerozol]

Link fixed, thanks!

I believe @reosarevok is already looking into updating links etc to Bluesky/Mastodon

[UltimateRiff]

@jesus2099

@aerozol

X-odus

Ah, funny pun.
Should we also remove twitter.com and x.com URL relationships?

I don’t think we should, since editors who still have Twitter accounts can see them at least (might be good to start up a new topic, if discussion continues on this)

[aerozol]

Oh I misunderstood, url relationships in the database, im they should stay. I don’t think this internal change means that we are dictating what other people and artists can and should use.

What reo looked at updating is the links to our social channels, from the MeB websites, footers, etc.