#MetaBrainz Meeting 2023-04-24
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Meeting wiki page: MetaBrainz Meeting - MusicBrainz Wiki
Last meeting: 2023-04-17
Next meeting: None next week, returns on 2023-05-08
@Reosarevok: Welcome to MetaBrainz Monday Madness
for the tagging, I played around with a new model that I recently read
and they claim to use less GPU for training things related to chunks of data
like, small chunks of data rather than large chunks like in ChatGPT
Since it’s 5:45 in the morning all the way on the other side of the planet, aerozol has entrusted me to stand in for him. [aerozol note: ‘trust’ is a strong word!]
He has been working on harmonizing our ‘secondary’ logos (i.e. not our main projects).
See [ MBH-542: Replace wiki favicon with updated MB logo] and this github pull request for context. (also, 100 PRs for the design system already ‽)
These three new logos we wanted your input on are for Jira, Wiki and Discourse.
The main question is whether we should use the short or long form of these new logos; keep in mind we want to harmonize across projects, so we would rather not mix-and-match.
The main arguments for the short form is that they take a lot less space and fit a lot better (especially true for the community logo) and that they distinguish the websites better (the long form ones look identical for a bigger portion of the logo).
Both aerozol and myself prefer using the short form.
The main argument against using the short form, probably only relevant for the community logo, is that we shorten MetaBrainz to MB and thus it requires some minimal knowledge of where users are. We assume users on the wiki and Jira website know where they are and why.
So the main question put to the vote today is: short form or long form?
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Some people agreed that the short-form was better, but that it should be ‘MeBCommunity’ (and so on), instead of ‘MBCommunity’.
@yvanzo raised that the cons of using the long form (that it requires familiarity) is a strong enough con not too use the short form.
Further discussion to take place on the ticket.
It was agreed to skip the next meeting, for
International Workers Day, and return on 2023-05-08.
2023 Summit Date
No conflicts reported, it’s agreed to have the summit from Oct 2-6, in Barcelona.
ooh~ that looks so much better~ I no longer have to get right up in my screen to read everything, lol
very much looking forward to these features~
also really digging the new logos~ I do almost prefer
other W logo for the wiki, but maybe that’s just me…
Sorry, it’s a bit confusing - The high detail square logo is staying for the wiki. The favicon will change for the wiki, jira and forums. Jira and the forums will get new logos as well, to stay consistent.
icons/logos look nice
thanks for the font size adjustment, i can pull back on my zoom levels a bit now
I also use MusicBrainz zoomed in because of the small letters, but I still prefer the zoomed in look to having just bigger letters. Because all UI elements and all cover art are tiny on MusicBrainz.
April 26, 2023, 9:52am
Sorry but at best one or two persons quickly nod at what you two presented as the preferred option, most people didn’t even react, very likely because there was not much time left for the two next topics on the agenda. The time needed to read the text, which is slightly biased, was longer than the time for reacting to it. I will add further comments to the ticket MBH-542.
You are overestimating my preference for the short form, quite frankly.
I don’t write these notes with any bias, and I apologize for missing your comment right at the end. I’ve corrected the meeting notes now.
I didn’t understand where those would be shown but I find MeB quite cryptic and looks like
We don’t have enough room for MetaBrainz Community (with a space, also)?
Also I think I saw
MetaBrainz Wiki mentionned, but for me it’s really a MusicBrainz Wiki, isn’t it?
I have been using this Wiki without expecting stuff from outside MB, but maybe I just never realised…
April 27, 2023, 5:50am
I’m sure it wasn’t intentional, you even presented the pros and cons for each form. I rather assumed it was more likely an oversight, that’s why I provided some context especially the sequence of time which is easy to miss when reading from the back logs only. Sorry if my comment created any doubt about it.
My main worry was just that you might bury yourself into
this…’ hole while there is likely no need to.
Thanks for correcting notes and more generally for posting weekly notes.
I didn’t really realise either… the change to MeB colours will hopefully help the other projects feel more welcome on the wiki.
If anybody’s wondering, I’ve been advised that there are some server dependency issues that stop us from changing the wiki url. So it will remain ‘
wiki.musicbrainz.org’ for the foreseeable future.