Notes from #MetaBrainz Meeting 2017-12-04

[Freso]

#MetaBrainz Meeting 2017-12-04

Meeting start: https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4056800/

Agenda

• Reviews
• Google Code‐in
• OTHER-77: Unify all markup syntax to simple markdown syntax
• BrainzBot functions

Reviews

@Freso

https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4056807/

This week has been a whole lot of Google Code-in, being the first week of the same.
But more about that in a bit.
I also reviewed the 2015 Annual Report by ruaok and the Dvorak intro blog post by reosarevok.
And I fixed yvanzo’s title on our Discourse.
And have otherwise been lurking on IRC and forums.

@samj1912

https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4056819/

got back home today, didn’t do much this week, currently working with bitmap on sir

@reosarevok

https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4056832/

I did the usual support plus some GCI stuff. Not as much as Freso or CatQuest probably but still takes a fair amount of time! And uni work
Also I opened the third classical cleanup:
https://blog.musicbrainz.org/2017/12/01/classical-clean-up-3-dvorak/

@bitmap

https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4056838/

I fixed some bugs I found in the sample/partial data dumps and PR cleaned up all the commits so that it’s mergeable
I submitted a few PRs for old branches I had laying around for months, mostly to update dependencies that required code changes
and finally worked a bit more on the alternative tracklists UI, and plan to focus on that again this week

@yvanzo

https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4056849/

Last week, I added some MB coding tasks to meet GCI req.
Besides, I mostly worked on the spam neutralization feature.
I plan to release next MBS beta on tomorrow, one month late.

@zas

https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4056857/

i’m sick, so didn’t do much, but medical exams etc…
usual server maintenance though, fixed few issues (disk space vs log file size, etc)
and a bunch of edits, ofc

@iliekcomputers

https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4056872/

I got a bunch of work on LB done the beginning of this week, working on PRs as per normal.
I got the artist graph PR ready for review after it being WIP for a bunch of time, plan to work on that again and a few open tickets for LB and MeB.org tomorrow (hopefully).
Also, did a few small LB PR reviews.
But the later part of the week, I got swamped by a lot of irl stuff, making it hard to be MeB productive.
I did do some work, working with naiveai on GCI tasks, reviewing his work and other PRs.
Also tried to help ruaok debug the MeB site problem, but it was too late at night for me to be much help anyways.

@Rob

https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4056894/

I wrote the annual report for 2015 last week, did some LB reviews and then tried to push our the annual report to the site
then I encountered a problem we’d never seen before and that ended up in most of the parts of the Meb site being down for an hour.
worked today on a PR to avoid that problem in the again, now just waiting for a nod from alastairp
paid people a bit last week and took care of a few other odds and ends.
that’s about it, headed home on wednesday. its been a lovely couple of weeks here in city X.

@Leo_Verto

https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4056902/

My week was also a whole lot of GCI, wrote a few tasks and mentored a bunch of beginner ones.
Other than that I made a minor PR to meb.org to improve some table styles in the yearly reports.
I also thought about how to make BrainzBot less bad (i.e. not download Node.js and install it inside a python virtualenv that is also the $GOPATH), renamed the repos to use brainzbot in their names and wrote a few tickets for it.
And I heard we’re going to talk about BrainzBot later

@naiveaiguy

https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4056915/

SO, I don’t think I’ve had a formal introduction.
My real name is Eshan Singh, I’m 13, I’m a GCI student, and I’m super excited to be doing this!
I spent most of the last week warming up.
I did complete a few LB tasks
Including LB-213 and LB-196
Next week I’m looking to start accelerating
Starting some stuff on CB-95
Plus thinking of other ways I can contribute besides GCI

@ferbncode

https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4056949/

Had exams this week (and have them in the next), so did nothing other than some GCI work.

@CatQuest

https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4056953/

Mad rush to the GCI Startline!
finally finished Mahler-cd boxes mess!
GCI was slow for me… that is until Ben made me co-mentor on some Bookbrainz tasks!
man are there many of those!
The way these tasks are written is probably a good reason so many are claiming them, so we should get These guys to write all next years Tasks’ descriptions! >:D
So I’ve done Some GCI mentoring.
I’ve also added two instruments! https://musicbrainz.org/instrument/f9159e56-0908-4b37-b0db-7b6bc4872a94 thanks to a gci student which picked up the “Research an already excising INST ticket” task \o/
and https://musicbrainz.org/instrument/b673ed30-fe14-47b4-9a1b-8b5f77862e7a thanks to a student taking a picture (AND creating a ticket) many thanks to @reosarevok for adding a Wikidata item.

@Leftmost_Cat

https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4056968/

I made a couple small changes to BB search which have seemingly made a huge difference in the usefulness of our results. I also did a tiny bit of code review and I’ve scheduled some time with chhavi to talk UX. I also began looking at dockerizing, but I could definitely use some help from zas or bitmap at some point.

@drsaunde

https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4056973/

hello everyone, finally i’m available during a meeting time so i thought i’d jump in on the fun
Area’s are good/up to date/nothing to report there
KEXP situation is finally improving… after major pleading proding poking picking persuading and prayer, many of their editors are improving, still 2 potential issues remain

1. There is still one editor that is problematic, it seems to me they are going to give that person more training and then another shift to see if they can improve
2. Generally it feels like editing MB is something they are being forced to do instead of want to do, which is IMO the heart of the problems we’ve had with them

… but as i said getting better, don’t think there’s any solution for #2
and i’ve already closed more GCI tasks than last year (but that’s an indictment on me last year more than anything)
almost done my 3rd SXSW…and boy are those a lot of work…each time i say never again…but who am i fooling
oh and i think i invented a new word “Brainzsplaining” kind of like mansplaining but for MB and without the condesending attitude

@anshuman73

https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4056989/

It’s super good to be back to the community after quite a while, school made it sort of impossible to manage everything, so I decided to take off for a bit. Considering GCI has been a really nice part of my life, I felt it would be really nice to come back as a mentor and help other students.
Last week was kinda weird, because it ended up being quite inactive for me GCI-wise, two students abandoned a task without any discussion whatsoever
However, that helped, considering I had an academically busy schedule last week, with about 2-3 college applications due and shit load of examinations (which continue next week too)
Still, managed to collab with ferbncode to review a PR on CB (& GCI task) that so far looks approvable \0/ once the student gets back to it.

Google Code‐in

https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4057001/

As evident from the reviews, Google Code-in has fully kicked off.
The first day was kind of slow, but then students started flooding into the BookBrainz task, esp. data entry ones.
MB data entry tasks are also rather popular.
Which created some tension since a couple of mentor are/were mentors on both sides and BB+MB data entry tasks were too much to keep up with.
Luckily I managed to convince two senior editors (drsaunde and MajorLurker) to join as mentors as well for the MB tasks, so CatQuest and Leo_Verto can focus more on the BB ones.
(And frees me up to properly administrate the org. instead of spending all the time mentoring as well.)
I feel like we’re in a good place now after the initial student rush and things are going well.
A number of students have also found their way to IRC, though it seems only naiveai is a regular so far.

OTHER-77: Unify all markup syntax to simple markdown syntax

https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4057024/

We had a fairly long… “debate” about it already.
Just wanted to see if anyone wants to add anything, clarify, etc.
Just to check I’m on the same page
As I understand it, OTHER-77 is going to be debated for a bit but should not affect current goings-on in the projects as far as code goes.

@CatQuest and @anshuman73 confirmed and @naiveaiguy was satisfied with their answers.

BrainzBot functions

https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4057038/

I wanted to contribute some stuff to BrainzBot
and I know some GCI tasks exist
however I wanted to ask you guys what you think you need for BrainzBot
some things I was thinking of:

1. something to automate this meeting stuff that Freso is doing right now
2. a way to store messages for people who aren’t online yet
3. a IRC faq for new guys - auto linking
4. and finally, linking to PRs

that’s my ideas.

For 1., it was pointed out that there has been some work/thoughts made on this, which should be gathered in OTHER-123.

For 2., @Freso mentioned that MemoServ essentially already covers this.

For 3., it was pointed out that this would be harder than just checking for whether a given username wasn’t seen before.

For 4., it was pointed out that we already have this, but some people find the current syntax complicated/non-intuitive.

In the end, @Freso said they were all reasonable ideas and encouraged @naiveaiguy (or others) to make tickets for the ones that did not already have them.