Notes from #MetaBrainz Meeting 2017-03-06

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MetaBrainz Meeting 2017-03-06

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Agenda

• Reviews
• Schema change
• DR: CB-4
• BrainzBot brain plugin

Reviews

@iliekcomputers

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@iliekcomputers

I had examinations this week, so didn’t do much.
Over the weekend though, I sent a few PRs, worked on porting LB from 2 to 3
and started work on my GSoC proposal

@ferbncode

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@ferbncode

I worked on migrating spam reports off ORM and sent a PR. Also I worked on links on spam reports which was a todo task in CB. Also I started working on my proposal for migrating off python-musicbrainzngs and Using MB database directly idea for CB.

@Freso

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@Freso

Keeping up with IRC, forums, etc.; had a meeting with Rob last week about how to prioritise and deal with the tasks I’m behind on; been spending too much time on the forums responding to artists trying to find their MBIDs ;
Set up a newly made mailing list for mb user/account admins, which is basically irrelevant to anyone but me, but eh.
Dealt with some reported editors.
Published the first set of meeting notes (for last week’s meeting) in several months!
… I think that about sums it up. I’ve also poked a bit at my freedb script (mostly moving it to GitLab) and whipper. Oh, and I went to the office over the weekend to try and get ob.o back up, but it failed. Seems ruaok got the fixed now though.
And, as said, I’ve got my ticket for my next trip to DK/SE. It seems the passport renewal process is going to be much more painless than I was hoping for. I guess I’ll see next week.

@ApeKattQuest_MonkeyPython

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@ApeKattQuest_MonkeyPython

I’ve been slacking. tho I have been adding and fixing up releases! and scanning loads of cd liners (accidentally at 1200 dpi tho >_<)
hopefully I’ll be able to add the remaining linked “hybrid” instruments in https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/STYLE-723 and then continue with more instruments this week \o/

@reosarevok

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@reosarevok

I answered a few more “what’s my MBID” questions
On Twitter, support, everywhere
I pinned a tweet with a link to the guide, hopefully that will help on the Twitter front
Other than that, the standard support
And I ended up on a local open/linked data day thingy on Sat so I gave a short “look, MusicBrainz has a lot of data and it’s linked from WD and links further!” during their talk on Wikidata and LOD
Not much time for more than that, but still, it’s nice to have two different orgs showing you can do open data and not lose money at the same time to people who are confused about the whole thing
(and a bit of the data itself, of course)
They were speaking about SPARQL, which makes me wonder if ruaok talked with Barry anymore about that

@samj1912

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@samj1912

so, this week was spent mostly on exams, didn’t have much time to code. Mostly did code reviews, made a few PRs today, doing a few bug fixes from 1.4 for the 1.4.1 release. Have an early morning flight to home tomorrow. Will be working on picard2.0 this week once 1.4.1 is done and over with and will also work on my proposal

@Gentlecat

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@Gentlecat

I took a bit of a break last week
worked on the indexer a bit, sadly nothing new to report
reviewed some code

@bitmap

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@bitmap

had a similar week to last week
spent a lot of time on code review
tested sentry more and fixed several more issues I found. going to deploy that to beta today and move on to other things
also fixed an issue in compile_resources.sh people keep seeing and went through schema change tickets

@Rob

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@Rob

last week I spent a bunch of time working to get LB into production.
I was reminded of how much incredible work zas, bitmap and Gentlecat did towards getting our stuff dockerized.
there is a lot to do and this is after everything has been figured out, so thanks guys!
and last week Hugh at Spotify announced a recent listens API for spotify which is a heaven-send for LB.
this is a really big deal.
I also did some work with Quesito and went to the dinner, which was really nice.
chatted with alastairp about the sparql endpoint and we come to a conculusion.
I’ll make a VM for barry and coordinate with zas to get things monitored appropriately.
then on thursday I went for a 4 day intensive swiss-german course in Switzerland.
it involved lots of burners, snow, hot tubs, booze and an wall of fun and incredible people.
and yes, I did actually understand a few sentences of swiss german.

@Quesito

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@Quesito

Last week I finished most of the reading portion of MeB product education. I feel I have enough of a knowledge base to continue implementing some overarching messaging and verbiage updates. I will (fair warning) continue to ask questions!
I’m compiling all this MeB info into a larger scope plan (yes, world domination) so that our messaging / PR / and social media are clear, consistent and aid in the growth of our ecosystem.
I began reaching out to users who should ethically be supporters. My communication is of a gentle and friendly, ‘push in the right direction’ nature, thus far the response is interesting.
Mid-week I met the team BCN was nice to see some faces live and got to meet zas!
I also welcomed a new supporter to the mobile tier late on friday eve/saturday–which is always a nice way to end the week!

@LordSputnik

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@LordSputnik

This week I was ill for a few days, and then busy the other half, so not much done.
However I had a good chat with Leftmost on Saturday, about our future plans, and we’ve agreed a way forwards on some of our docker issues, and server management. We’re planning to take test.bookbrainz.org down soon, and use the main site a bit more adventurously, since it’ll expose bugs to users quicker and let us get better feedback.
Apart from that just been continuing cleaning up code
Then I’ll be working on improving entity display and editing
There is a dependency there, however tenuous

@yvanz

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@yvanz

I loaded bitmap with code reviews by working on a variety of small MBS issues, starting with recent ones, mostly display bugs and auto-edit improvements.
I had a quick look at schema change tickets as well.

@alastairp

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@alastairp

last week lots of SoC stuff
we’ve had a lot of reviews come in for AB - our good-first-bug tag is working really well
2 ready to merge, 2 still waiting on feedback
I also spent some time digging into iliekcomputers’ open tickets for LB and giving feedback on those
and clearned up LB jira and added good-first-bug tags there too
started some messybrainz hacking to clean up some long-standing issues now that we’re starting to need the data

Schema change

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@Bitmap recommended that we proceed with the Q2 schema change and listed a number of tickets he’d like to see for it:

MBS-8973

MBS-5452

MBS-9271

MBS-8393

@Rob asked @Bitmap to estimate time for each of the tickets, with the goal of this schema change being «a total cake walk».

DR: CB-4

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@Gentlecat asks if we should «just implement ratings separately from MB or is that a bad idea?»

It was suggested that ratings got moved off of MusicBrainz and to CritiqueBrainz instead, but it was noted that MusicBrainz has ratings for more entities than can currently be reviewed in CritiqueBrainz.

There was some talk about utilising for a centralised ratings storage, so other projects such as BookBrainz could interface with CritiqueBrainz to handle ratings, assuming a usable API. (It was noted that ratings are currently exposed in MusicBrainz’s API as writeable, so this would need consideration if ratings move entirely from MB to CB.)

At the end, discussion turned towards decoupling the ratings from reviews-with-a-rating, so it would be possible to tie a rating to a review but also be able to rate the reviewed entity outside of the review.

However, the meeting ran out of time, so no meaningful conclusion could be made. @Gentlecat would make a new ticket specifically for ratings tied to reviews, and it was urged that someone also brought it up on the forums, but no volunteers for this. Possibly to be brought up at meetings again once it’s been discussed some more in the community.

[Editor’s note: Tickets for this are live at CB-244: Implement a rating system and CB-245: Migrate entity ratings from MusicBrainz to CritiqueBrainz, and there’s forum discussion too.]

BrainzBot brain plugin

There wasn’t time to discuss this at this meeting, so it’s been postponed until next week.

[InvisibleMan78]

[quote=“Rob”]I went for a 4 day intensive swiss-german course in Switzerland
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and yes, I did actually understand a few sentences of swiss german.[/quote]Hetti nüd dänggt, dass Du mal chunntsch go schwiizer-düütsch lernä Findi aber läss.