How to credit producer credits that really mean "beatmaker"?

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I’ve noticed more recently in hip-hop that artists who create the beat of a track will credit themselves as the producer, whether in the actual credits as “produced by [artist]” or in the track title as “prod. [artist]”. This contradicts the definition we use on MB, “an artist who is responsible for the creative and practical day-to-day aspects involved with making a musical recording.” (emphasis by me.)

How should we enter these relationships? Should the “producer” actually be the composer?

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What partially led me to asking this question was entering this release by Luca Maxim. On Qobuz, he is credited as the composer, but the YouTube credits for tracks credit “producers” that are just beatmakers. If the answer to that last question is “yes”, then presumably the Qobuz credit should be ignored?

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in the past, I’ve treated this as a regular producer credit, but I’m open to a different approach.

additionally, I’ve treated “prod.” credits in the track title the same way we handle feat. credits, moving it to the artist credits

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I’ve come upon a similar issue when artist is credited as ‘beats’. I suppose it may fit to instrument arranger but not sure.

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At the recording level, I’ve always used producer and IIRC that’s been the same with all the hip hop editors I’ve interacted with. For what it’s worth, quite often (although certainly not always) a hip hop producer is not just a beatmaker but also does a lot of other things, including a lot of traditional producer-like elements.

At the work level, usually a producer/beatmaker should get a composer credit, yes. As long as we’re sure they did write the music, anyway, and it’s not a non-writing producer credit.

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I think a lot of cases where Prod. credits are used in the title (especially on SoundCloud) are cases where someone takes a beat from the internet and raps over it. would you still use producer for this case?

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I have a similar question. Why do some releases have the producer credit show up in Picard but some don’t? For example, I’m trying to tag this https://musicbrainz.org/release/16907cdc-7f4e-4e0f-a48b-395919cda103. You can clearly see producer credits on the page, but they don’t show up in Picard. When I load https://musicbrainz.org/release/68cf83c9-3f68-4af2-9edd-37f22d5da600?tport=8000, the producer tag actually shows up. My files for the $uicideboy$ release have producer credits in the titles. I want to retain that in some way

After comparing the two relationship pages, it looks like the Art Blakey album has a producer credited under “Release Relationships”. For the $uicideboy$ track, I created a work but there’s no way to add a producer credit to a specific work. So I take it there’s no way to have different producer tags per track show up in Picard, unless there’s a hidden tag variable I can use in a script.

Edit: And I’ve found out why. You have to enable “Use track relationships” in Picard options to get specific track credits

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also, producer is a recording relationship, not a work relationship (left half of the release relationship editor)