Hebrew style guideline proposal

The current Hebrew style guide is quite short.

I propose adding the following under the Hebrew Script section and would love some feedback:

Artist credits

Avoid using ampersand (&) as a join phrase (unless it’s the artist’s Intent). Use conjunctive Vav (ו החיבור) instead.

Examples:

Punctuation

Prefer typographically-correct punctuation.

The most common typographic punctuation marks are:

Unicode Alt code AltGr+ Example
׳ Geresh U+05F3 0215 ; ג׳קי לוי
״ Gershaim U+05F4 0216 " להקת הנח״ל
־ Maqaf U+05BE 0206 - דו־קיום באהבה
Open quotation mark U+201D 0148 קטע מהסדרה ”הכל דבש“
Close quotation mark U+201C 0147
Kav Mafrid U+2013 0150 = צו השעה – צו ראשון

Niqqud

Add niqqud if the artwork has it (usually for children records) but only for release, track titles and artist credits, not recording, works or artist names.

See Niqqud - Wikipedia for help typing it in.

Examples:

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This will be hard on me as I never type with niqqud, but I agree with you that it’s how it’s supposed to be.

As always in MB you’re not expected to enter perfect data. Maybe I can use a less definite phrasing there.

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In general nobody should vote No on an addition because of it missing these - rather vote No on a change removing them. But you can of course always explicitly say that using it is preferred, kinda like in Style / Miscellaneous - MusicBrainz

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Maybe on recording, work and artist name level they can be added too, but as Hebrew aliases.

Also, I’m not sure what is a naming convention here on MB. Should a main name always be near to the original name or not? If yes, then I think the niqquded version should be the primary name and versions without it should be added as aliases. If there’s no convention like this then I’m not sure, because AFAIK with my knowledge of Hebrew niqqud isn’t used so much except of children books and other children content, poetry and some other special cases, and it’s hard to type them. So maybe it will more logical to make not niqquded version the primary just to make the searching process a little bit easier. But as I said, I’m not completely sure here.

In any case, I think it will be useful to use aliases for adding both niqquded and not niqquded versions for songs that have niqqud in their title

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Thanks for you feedback @Libra.

Niqqud is indeed not used much in modern Hebrew so I don’t think it should be the main name but an alias sounds good to have.

@reosarevok should I open a ticket before applying the changes to the Wiki?

Let’s do that, yes, then I can close the ticket when I transclude the change.

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This is now live: Style / Language / Hebrew - MusicBrainz
Thanks everyone for the feedback

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This is now live: Style / Language / Hebrew - MusicBrainz

Thanks everyone for the feedback

Maybe it would be useful to add the link to this thread on that page as well, so that if someone has suggestions for improvements, they can suggest them here instead of starting a new discussion, right?

I don’t mind but I don’t remember seeing it in other docs. @reosarevok?

Yeah, I don’t think that belongs at the doc page. In fact, it’s perfectly fine to start a new discussion if someone has an idea in a year or two - and if it’s sooner than that they’ll probably find this. It’s already linked from the ticket, which is the other place they might search.

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