"Feat." is short for "featuring" and "ft." is short for "feet"

Oh in that case, no worries… Just wasn’t sure if I’d be stepping on toes to do that. Thanks!

If you want to do it properly remember to check things like the back cover for releases that you’re editing, the modern style guide wants the exact join phrase (feat., ft., vs., and, etc.) that is used on the source tracklist, whereas the old style guide before the introduction of multiple artists per track mandated the use of feat. no matter what was printed

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It used to be that we had to put “feat.” no matter what the release said, but a few years ago it was changed to put exactly how it appears on the release. So, if it says ft. on the release, we put that on the release or track listing. Blame the artists for using “ft.”. Please do not change any credits from how they appear on the release. Whenever you see a “feat.” double check and put in an edit to change it if that’s not how it is on the release to exactly how it appears. However, do not put parenthesis if they appear on the track listing. As for Picard, there is a plugin called “Standardise Feat.” that should work for you if you want “feat.”, works for “featuring”, not sure if it works for “ft.”

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But now you just have me thinking of collaborations I want to see. Nine Yards ft. Inch or Silver Metre ft. The Inches :joy:

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And what happens to “Little Feat?” :slight_smile:

Hmm, the search for “Little Feat” lists an Italian group named “feat. Esserelà.”

There’s a collaboration for you: “Little Feat feat. feat. Esserelà.”

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Not mine. But I see no harm in crediting things the way they appear on a release.

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This can be done with scripting. Here is a script that puts featuring from artist to title, it could be adapted to do it the other way:

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Standardising everything has its own problems, as you can imagine.

But in any case it’s a happy ending because you can press a button to make ‘ft./featuring/feat’ all turn into ‘feat.’ But if you put all those into the database as ‘feat.’ to begin with, there would be no way to press a button and change them back to how they’re printed. So this is a path of minimum data loss and maximum flexibility, which is great for everyone imo.

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Even if there are obvious typos there?
I’ve got a release on Piranha Records where it actually says PIRANHA RECRODS on the logo itself. Quite how that went to press I have no idea. LOL

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Well, I can imagine that from a collector’s point of view, having a different release WITH the typo is worth having in any given database

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We do fix typos/‘mistakes’ in MB :+1:

Unfortunately using ft. instead of feat. isn’t a typo! It’s quite a good example of where we leave ‘artist intent’ even if we don’t like it :scream:

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Fair enough. I’ve got done for bringing this up so it must be a sore point with somebody in the moderators team. No idea.

Most likely that R word used in the hidden post is what upset them. They don’t understand British slang\humour and get a bit strict about how words are used. I’ve also had run-ins with “the powers that be” various misunderstandings based around language. :crazy_face: So act as if you are talking to your Gran and you’ll upset them less.

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Besides us Americans, who often get accused of not understanding British humour, there are many posters for whom English is a second (or third or fourth…) language. So you might also want to imagine your Gran isn’t a native English speaker. :slight_smile:

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I’m not sure disabled people in the UK would appreciate it either?

Let’s be aware that we are interacting and speaking with a wider audience here than when we are at the pub with our friends or whatever :grin::+1:

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Yeah I didn’t mean it to come across ableist. I myself am aspergic and a proud R. Americans I’ve met have got a bit of a culture shock when visiting when they hear us flinging cusses and blasphemy like it’s nothing. :rofl:
Apologies to anybody I offended with my flippancy!

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It’s even the first thing you see on their Discogs which is a pity… Jonny L is one of the best underground producers of the 1990s IMO… I don’t think this catalogue has yet been digitally released at all still, and some of these were corkers… https://www.discogs.com/label/1387-Piranha-Records

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I think many of us on here are… what sane person would spend hours on the details of cataloguing music? :rofl:

Oh that is brilliant. I just got the joke in the word play. Piranaha’s Wreck Rods. That ain’t no typo. That’s just a clever remix of the words.

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Man, Jonny musta had some good cheeba when he came up with that! LMAO!!

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Wish I’d found this a few days ago… see contested edit https://musicbrainz.org/edit/83152674 that looks about to fail because of “Feat.” vs. “feat.”, where I got pretty unhappy about a no vote on it and then @reosarevok said he would update style guidelines for standardization… but hasn’t happened yet. Can anyone point me to another/more current thread discussing this?