On Disc ID page there’s FreeDB ID calculated based on CD TOC. At freedb.org you can make searches based on the ID. You’ll soon notice that FreeDB returns something that has “Jörg Demus, Tamás Vásáry” on the title. With these performer names you could find something like https://www.discogs.com/release/5082779 (durations match).
I guess this was originally added to wrong release group. Based on release group artist someone updated this to have the same artist.
Good idea to use the freedb-discid for searching. Didn’t know that trick before. I started to do the changes.
The sad thing is that this might have been much easier to resolve if the musicbrainz edit history would not suffer of dementia. For the original submission I only see “Artist: removed”. Instead of “removed”, I expect to see the original string at least which was there. This really should be improved!
well I’ve gone and actually ordered it now, so in a few weeks we’ll see how matching this disc id is after all :p
Now, This being musicbrainz, naturally there is edge case detection unit standby,
I have found situation which is between popular music and composition, and, for added effect it’s in Japanese
No don’t run away yet! it’s interesting, I swear.
it is Firebird-Tomita
Right now these are just linked to the generic arranger work,
but I feel that in this case we should err on the side of classical way of doing. This is an arranging of classical pieces for "lots of weird electronic equipment"
Tomita also has arr. credits (see the cover art), further there are more Debussy recordings there https://beta.musicbrainz.org/artist/9119e57f-1086-48b2-8a93-57feacb7f6d9/recordings
I feel that it would make much more sense to group these on “arranged by Tomita” works than to be scattered around the generic works.
The music is completely recognisable as the original classic works - they simply sound as if “what if Debussy et. al. were composing for 1970’s sci-fi instead” like. :D
Re: Classical edge case.
I suggest apply the penguin test protocol.
I made it as a joke but it is eerily accurate.
Are the perormers wearing black and white?
Do the performers stay in place when performing?
Are the performers expected to be using recreational drugs while performing?
Is the performance held to be judged on musical merit as opposed to political statements, spectacle, fireworks, simulated sex or drug overdose symptoms on stage?
Is the audience expected to remain in place during the performance?
Is the audience sitting?
Are many of the audience expected to be using non-legal recreational drugs?
Might some of the audience be expected to start dancing?
Is fidelity to the sound/data stream produced by the performer’s instruments (as physically addressed) highly valued?
Does the work being performed have a significant conceptual framework behind it?
This is not a binary area.
Rather the questions and answers indicate how much a performance is in the classical tradition.
ok, I’m going to say this only once: I don’t CARE what the performers wear, I don’t CARE what drug the performers may or may not use, I don’t care how they move or not. I don’t care about their dramas, their celebritism, their pets, their wigs, their prestige, their duckfaces or their suits being old. all I care about is the music. and that goes for absolutely ALL styles of music.
so can we drop this and focus on the cleanup instead. please.
Errr, I hope you realize those lists are intended to be taken tongue-in-cheek—they’re not serious.
Anyway, I think you should enter a work using CSG if it makes sense, based on the way the music was released and based on the metadata we have. It sounds like the answer is “yes, it’s classical” and you can go ahead and enter those works.
yea, sorry, I understand it was meant as non-serious, but it’s never as clear to the other person on the other side of the screens, when it comes to the written medium of internet communication :) and I was hoping not to have this thread derail into discussions on “what constitutes classical tradition” or the ilk, as I find such discussions pointless and bothersome :)
It’s pretty difficult finding anything with a name like this, I have hoping to maybe find some place where it was for sale and I could listen to clips (and compare them with the Japanese release)
If anyone knows of it or owns it please speak up!
:edit: the plot thickens! this fingerprint https://acoustid.org/track/11988110 (that I just unlinked from a wrong recording as the performers were different) has among the submitted user-data a Clair de lune on a “Piano Dreams” release. hmm!