Aliases vs. Guess Case

As an example, here’s the song “Aretha Franklin - Walk on By.”

Guess case suggests the spelling “on” in lowercase. However, the alias shows “On” in uppercase.

How can I fix such a large number of recordings with the fewest clicks?

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Further complicating matters is the version of the word on the cover art. Does it take precedence?

Pretty sure that’s the “except when used as adverbs or as an inseparable part of a verb” bit of Style / Language / English - MusicBrainz

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But what good are guidelines if the title on the cover is printed even with an error?

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Guess case is just that. An approx guess which is mostly correct, but sometimes wrong. It just checks words, not grammar. English is complex. There are plenty of examples like this. See also Shine On You Crazy Diamond.

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Let me ask a different question. :wink:

I read somewhere on the forum that we should enter the recordings as they are printed on the paper (coverart).

If the printed version differs from the guidelines or common sense, which one should we choose?

There is a whole set of guidelines about correction of English to follow various grammar rules. See the link quoted above. Otherwise everything would be ENTERED IN ALL CAPS making it unreadable.

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Or, perhaps the most famous example, “Come On Eileen.” The meaning of the phrase changes with the case of “On.”

No. That is addressed in the Style Guide. (It only mentions the case of titles in all caps, but that’s just one example of why the guideline exists)

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That refers to the words used, not the casing. For example, if the cover has “Sound of Silence,” the MB track title should not be “The Sound of Silence.”

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@Beckfield

But if the cover has “Sound Of Silence” what do we enter into MB?

Sound of Silence. As per the guidelines.

My first experiences on MusicBrainz editing was like going back to school. I had forgotten all these English Verb\Noun\Adverb rules :laughing:

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The cover art does not take precedence when it comes to capitalization, for the reasons explained in the Style page I linked earlier.

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If so (the cover is irrelevant), is it possible to use some BAT file to replace all “Walk on By” with “Walk On By”?

I’m not aware of any, but I’m not what might be considered a “power” editor. Someone else might know better.

This is nice: https://titlecaseconverter.com/

When you are not sure if its on or On. For me as a Dutchie this is very confusing and Titlecase converter helps a lot

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Thanks, but for me as a Pole this is not confusing. :wink:

I just wanted to clarify which is more important: the cover or the guidelines.

But this site will definitely be used by the Japanese or Arabs.

@Tiske_Tisja

I also wanted to bring this to your attention.

What’s the point of guidelines when there are two versions in Alias​es ​Aretha: “Walk On By” and “Walk on By”?

In other words: the guidelines are clear, but Aliases ​​seems to be ruining it by allowing two versions.

What will the System, Picard, or the user choose?

Aliases often appear due to merges. It would also explain why “Walk on By (remastered)” is in there. Check edit history and I doubt you will find anyone has actually edited those at any time.

Those aliases could likely all be cleared out.

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@IvanDobsky

I think MB has become a real mess… :wink:

Too many inputs and data entry options.

Well if you see a mistake you can change it and then its less of a mess. I do..

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Ah, I didn’t know about that one. There is also https://capitalizemytitle.com/

One small problem is that I’m not sure which, if any, published style guide MusicBrainz adheres to. I did some brief comparisons a couple years ago, and it seemed to me, based solely on the capitalization of prepositions, that MB’s guidelines are closest to the Chicago Manual of Style. But, as I said, I only compared this one area.