I spent some time trying to add music videos and thinking about this, my proposal:
A music video is a video, with a relationship with a (music) recording. We need a VideoBrainz (or MovieBrainz) in order to fully and accurate enter the data.
similarly: see audiobooks, discussion, example
Arguments
Music videos are commonly listed under “movie” or “video” in homepages:
dadaray, deco*27, The Binary
A music video is not a music release.
あたらよ’s 10月無口な君を忘れる MV “released” (投稿) in Nov 2020, gained over million views, before the digital single is released (リリース) on Mar 2021. Wikipedia.
Missing fields for artist credits
the biggest reason I want to enter music videos into MusicBrainz, is to record the artist credits associated with music videos. I can’t do that fully in MusicBrainz. I cannot accurately represent:
illustrator, animator, photography, typography, video production producers / managers / director
set design, lighting, camera crew
Missing “traditional” data
- no label or barcode (although self-published releases aren’t uncommon)
- is a sole recording entry, no tracklist
- recording has no ISRC
When a music video is “released”, a video is released, not music, you have to rip the music from it.
What I want
We need MovieBrainz (or VideoBrainz).
MovieBrainz recording has relationship “Music Video of” with a MusicBrainz recording entry.
MovieBrainz recording has additional recording-artist relationships not available for MusicBrainz entries (illustrator, typography, set design, camera crew etc)
MovieBrainz “release” (?) schema can be better designed to suit for movies (I don’t know anything at all about this).
To show all music videos on a MusicBrainz artist page, the process goes:
MusicBrainz artist
find corresponding MovieBrainz artist
find all MovieBrainz release group
under category Music Video
The complete schema probably should be a separate discussion.
also unfortunately, most developers are still working on the new react UI, so we won’t see progress on this even if this is accepted…
stopgap
IF we’re making MovieBrainz, the problem is then: for now, do we accept “Other” release group for music videos, to be removed when MovieBrainz is a thing.
The only information a music video release group adds from being a standalone recording is:
thumbnail
release date
artist credit
release date can be moved to url begin date, artist credit usually can be represented by recording’s vocal artist, but then the formatting for the artist credit will be lost (is this important?).
There are way too many “Other” type release group entries, search result, creating release groups will not help importing into MovieBrainz if that becomes a thing.
We will search for recording entries with “music video of” relationship anyway.
So, do we want to pre-archive thumbnails onto CAA? this is not a misuse of CAA, boxarts are already on CAA, and hypothetically movie posters will also be on CAA if MovieBrainz exists.