I can’t remember what MB stance is on this kind of extra title information…
I like having (instrumental) in the track names in this case because otherwise the tracks are identical to the non instrumental release, length and all. But perhaps this edit is correct, and ‘instrumental’ should be moved to the recording disambig? I also like leaving tracks exactly as titled on the release page.
Merged zombie recordings (recordings without release) created by a beginner editor into real recordings created by the same editor: please vote.
Here is the original edit which created a media with later abandoned recordings. I do now know the DB structure good enough, maybe the abandoned media shall be merged into the new media created by the same beginner editor as well.
Errr… WOW! One band member making tons of edits almost as if they are intentionally trying to break every single guideline in the book. I don’t think “Artist Intent to annoy everyone and have their own personal set of rules” is supposed to be a thing.
I looked at them briefly and likewise decided it wasn’t worth the bother. (Despite their insistence that the capitalization is artist intent, their cover art does not do so consistently, which undermines that argument.)
Considering the editor had a debatable track record already before they found out about our artist intent policy, I am pretty sure they are just exploiting it as an unchallengeable loophole to get their own way at this point.
If they weren’t editing in their own vacuum disregarding the style guidelines and other editors, I’d actually be pretty impressed at the amount of information they have entered!
He is an interesting artist. Why no Wikipedia page? All his other pages online seem to be written by himself. Are there any articles on line about him that aren’t written by him? I’ve gone five pages deep into Google and not found anyone else writing about him. He must spend a LOT of time online. Can’t find any of him music on EBay either - which must be a first.
If you add “melogaze” to your search for “vision Éternel” you’ll find a few articles about him, (though I’m not familiar with the blogs/magazines that posted them – it’s possible they’re just shill sites)
It’s a safe bet that it’s a small-time local band that’s not well-known enough to meet Wikipedia’s “notability” standards – I wouldn’t be surprised if he’d submitted a Wikipedia article himself, and it was deleted on non-notability grounds.
I could probably come up with a dozen or more local bands from my city with a similar level of fame.
As for the not-on-eBay thing – I’ve not been on eBay much in the last 10 years – can you usually find releases from microlabel-only musicians on there? I’m not sure that eBay-absence means much of anything.
The man is an enigma. He just gives me a odd feeling about him in the way he is reacting to anyone touching his project. The way he has added such a huge cross linked background it makes me think of that guy who made up the fictional tours for his fictional band a few years back. (Can’t remember his name - long flowing hair)
So far the only “blogs” I have found have mimicked his press release. All the database edits are either by him, or the label name. And even on the label site he has blog articles about “sold out” box sets. I would have though I’d at least have turned up one of those local paper reviews.
Interesting character. But explains his attitude to editing changes. When you go to so much work to create a world like that it is upsetting him that anyone is trying to change it. I would love to have seen the argument on Wikipedia when they sussed him out.
Have to give him huge credit for just how large a set of data he has created! So many links in so many places. The man is dedicated
That’s for certain. An interesting personality(s?) and topic
In getting curious I stumbled upon this related MusicBrainz page:
At first sight it looks very legit.
But considering what up till now has been reported in this thread, it could also describe some bedroom music recording doodling a while back, blowed up to big proportions.
Studio? Publishing house? Is it all ‘real’?
This all does indeed make you wonder how much overlap there is between the real world and a perhaps more wishful fantasy world.
Title or series? Pending edits to remove “20th Century Masters: The Millennium Collection” from the titles of a number of compilations are under discussion here.
The more you click, the more you read, the deeper down the rabbit hole of fantasy you travel. Personally I think the whole thing is made up based on a handful of home recorded CDs. Some dedicated to an ex-girlfriend. I spent a bit of time last night and this morning chasing links and could see a very common thread appearing.
All I ask is - find me one other person who has ever written about this project.
Personally I think there is a certain art in what he has produced. All the links, the connections, but it also needs a note added to explain the fantasy, but that note would then be deleted due to “Artist Intent” to stay inside his bubble.
Not so much fantasy as, perhaps, self-aggrandizement. The address listed for the original “Mortified Studio” is just an ordinary looking suburban house, but the music itself clearly exists and is out there in the world. So it’s certainly “legit” for the purposes of MB.
Agree it is certainly legit in MB eyes as this is clearly more effort than a single YouTube video that some people post. Just not sure why he is allowed to distort so many MB guidelines in the process. The comical part is he would have been left alone in peace if he hadn’t started hammering at those guidelines so hard.
None of these are Rolling Stone or Pitchfork, granted, and I haven’t attempted to verify their legitimacy.
Really, this sounds about normal for a small-time local band/musician. Personally, I generally take a band/artist more seriously if they actually play concerts/shows, and in my searching I couldn’t find any evidence that this band has ever played shows. However, it’s not uncommon for these small-time acts to rarely play out – It takes a certain amount of dedication to grind through those first few dozen shows of playing to only 5 or so people, and add in that with electronic music, playing live is completely different from the studio experience (i.e. spending hours to make a 5-minute track).
And the lack of concerts is probably a big part of the lack of local newspaper/alt-weekly coverage.
Also, record labels run out of someone’s house is pretty common in the micro-label (AKA “DIY”) scene.
You did better than me - I gave up reading after the first few I found. But then I didn’t get past page 6 of Google searches. Only spent an hour on it before getting bored.
I am not doubting he has created music, he just has a far bigger and more interesting project there than just the CDs.
Only spent an hour on it before getting bored.