# The General Chatter/Off Topic Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** General chatter\ **Tags:** en, off-topic, musicbrainz\ **Created:** [October 16, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432 "2021-10-16T21:18:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Silver\_Skree](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/silver_skree/32/28390_2.png) [@Silver\_Skree](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/Silver_Skree)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 6:05am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/81 "2021-12-14T06:05:16Z")
But consider this, Riff… how will anyone ever be able to make sense of that without [a good AcoustID fingerprint](https://musicbrainz.org/recording/84820fbd-8c23-4d8e-b421-bcf2ff861487/fingerprints) on it? 😉 > [@UltimateRiff](#): > > I’d love to add you as a collaborator on it Hahaha… well, I dunno if I’ll be super active in contributing to it, but, sure, I’d love to be able to collaborate on it. I know of some stuff that really blurs the lines between “normal” and memetic music… Anyway, I spent some time tonight marveling at the task now before me: one of my friends wants to tag their stuff from [the A-One circle](https://musicbrainz.org/artist/42b2ddeb-b968-4c3a-9800-51c581ea743c/releases), and at that point I realized a bunch of their Releases are just a spaghettified mess of clashing relationship and crediting standards… and I’ve been trying to tidy up the first few Releases. I’ve got loooots of open edits now… at least compared to what I’m used to. 🙂 I definitely try not to rock the boat too much with my editing and refrain from doing huge sweeping changes all at once, but I’m sure I’ll have a good few pages of open edits for stuff like relationship edits/removals in the next week… Anyone want to take bets on how many releases I’ll make it through before I get sick of it and take a hiatus? EDIT: I forgot when I was posting just now, but during the middle of the day, when I was working on those releases, I took some before/after screenshots of POD JACK just for the fun of it. [https://musicbrainz.org/release/eff354c1-a8e2-45c8-adba-24c092676a8c](https://musicbrainz.org/release/eff354c1-a8e2-45c8-adba-24c092676a8c) * * * ![unknown](https://community.metabrainz.org/uploads/default/original/3X/e/b/eb64df466cc58e093b05add0217c7af589265350.png) 😒 👎 * * * ![unknown2](https://community.metabrainz.org/uploads/default/original/3X/1/f/1fb4663d33261ba70fc2ab290e8323060b54ce2a.png) 😌 👌 ---
**Author:** ![aerozol](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/aerozol/32/116_2.png) [@aerozol](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/aerozol)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/82 "2021-12-15T22:09:42Z")
> [@UltimateRiff](#): > > actually, after listening to the recordings, yes, that is **the theme** of Mr. Halo 😂 > > all seriousness aside, I have worked a bit with the Doom (2016) soundtrack, and they reworked the first level’s soundtrack from Doom (1993)… Much later but an update. Based on this IRC convo there isn’t really a way to connect leitmotifs or themes anyway, so it turns out it’s a mute question/difference! tldr: just use the ‘based on’ relationship for now @hay\_ mentioned on Twitch that a Leitmotif is a melody which would constitute a work in MB? So maybe I create a work and then link that using ‘based on’… Would both simplify and complicate it, as these melodies are used in multiple tracks on the first release/soundtrack. So eases the question of ‘what’s based on what’, but brings up the question of ‘what’s the motif called’… Relevant IRC convo parts: > [@](#): > > [18:15] @aerozol Still stuck on how to link ‘themes’ or ‘leitmotif’s’ that appear on multiple songs. Any classical pros want to have a peek I’d be grateful > … > [18:50] @CatQuest i had an old idea for that actualy. a new work-work relationship: “contains compositional elements from” > [18:51] i had in mind more for popular music than classical, but > [18:51] @reosarevok Yeah - right now all we have is “based on” > [18:51] @CatQuest popular music borrow compositional bits from classical > [18:51] tink only of the many many many that have bits of bethovens 5th for exampke > [18:51] @reosarevok Classical does that from classical very often too 🙂 > [18:51] @CatQuest hah > [18:52] actually that’d be interesting information > [18:52] what do you think of my idea reo? > [18:52] @reosarevok For stuff like “variations on piece X” I’ve always used “based on”, but for stuff like “this contains a brief quotation of Beethoven’s Emperor piano concerto” we have nothing rn > [18:52] yea! > [18:52] There’s probably a ticket for something like this already, and it probably makes sense > [18:53] We just need to word it clearly so that people won’t use it stupidly, but I’m not against the idea > [18:54] [https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/STYLE-348](https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/STYLE-348) > [18:54] \<+BrainzBot\> STYLE-348: Add relationship: Musical Quotation/Reference ---
**Author:** ![UltimateRiff](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/ultimateriff/32/47799_2.png) [@UltimateRiff](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/UltimateRiff)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 12:54am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/83 "2021-12-16T00:54:20Z")
I was actually about to make a thread on that, because I found [another example](https://musicbrainz.org/work/97be4257-dfdc-4b10-b739-39871f8bf0f7) 😅 good to know there’s already a ticket for that tho~ > [@aerozol](#): > > @hay\_ mentioned on Twitch that a Leitmotif is a melody which would constitute a work in MB? So maybe I create a work and then link that using ‘based on’… > Would both simplify and complicate it, as these melodies are used in multiple tracks on the first release/soundtrack. So eases the question of ‘what’s based on what’, but brings up the question of ‘what’s the motif called’… in my opinion, something like [Shire theme] or [Darth Vader leitmotif] might be good, unless there’s a known name for it. do we need a new work type in that case‽ 😂 ---
**Author:** ![teethfairy](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/teethfairy/32/49533_2.png) [@teethfairy](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/teethfairy)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/84 "2021-12-18T21:01:04Z")
hello mb family… i changed my name to David when i was 13, and i’m starting to think i made the wrong choice, because i went to create an entry for my legal name to link to my mom and it seems [many Williams parents had my same name idea](https://musicbrainz.org/search?query=david+williams&type=artist&method=indexed). at least one of them even [lives near me](https://musicbrainz.org/artist/1deb498f-195d-41e0-937e-66e5bd2542bd)! my name is so common there is an [artist entry for unknown David Williamses](https://musicbrainz.org/artist/d73f9e2e-f7d0-4481-9e01-582c242ccf33)… shoutout to @jesus2099 10 years ago for making that btw 😉 this is the final straw. i’m taking legal name suggestions. i’m thinking something like Hhbsdnflhg Jjesbfjksg. ---
**Author:** ![aerozol](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/aerozol/32/116_2.png) [@aerozol](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/aerozol)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 9:20pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/85 "2021-12-18T21:20:28Z")
> [@UltimateRiff](#): > > in my opinion, something like [Shire theme] or [Darth Vader leitmotif] might be good I’ve gone ahead and made a leitmotif work: [[Halo theme]](https://musicbrainz.org/work/955b02a4-0cbb-4d8e-98e9-c945c9ae12b0) I might leave it there for now, I really just wanted to link those very similar songs together. I was already thinking 'should I split out the ‘monks ohooooooo’ing’ part into its own motif as it’s used so much, but I just don’t have the time 😭 If you have any feedback @reosarevok please do say, and also @CyberSkull who has done an _ **insanely good** _ job on the Halo works already. > [@teethfairy](#): > > i’m taking legal name suggestions. i’m thinking something like Hhbsdnflhg Jjesbfjksg. Something like ‘Asfdasfd Williams’ will make you come up a lot when I just jam something into Google to skip to the image search window 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![IvanDobsky](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/ivandobsky/32/11785_2.png) [@IvanDobsky](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/IvanDobsky)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/86 "2021-12-18T23:20:46Z")
> [@teethfairy](#): > > many Williams parents had my same name idea I recognise that issue. Obviously my RealName™ is not Ivan. My own name is so common that I have to give my date of birth when I go to the dentist to avoid a clash. In my current home town there are many of us. We are legion. There are even famous people with my name. We share that problem that getting a gmail account means we are [dwilliams2764572846@gmail.com](mailto:dwilliams2764572846@gmail.com) 🤣 But there is a bonus. It gives us level of anonymity. No one is going to find us in a Google search. Facebook gets confused as to which one we are. Haha. Common names are cool. Just get yourself a nick name for your mates. We know you are uniquely you and it is all the other David Williams’ who are copying you. Now I just got to practice saying Hhbsdnflhg. I assume that is Welsh with the lack of vowels. ---
**Author:** ![sound.and.vision](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/sound.and.vision/32/35417_2.png) [@sound.and.vision](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/sound.and.vision)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2021, 1:20pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/87 "2021-12-19T13:20:19Z")
49 reviews away from 10,000 reviews on CritiqueBrainz 😮 ---
**Author:** ![aerozol](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/aerozol/32/116_2.png) [@aerozol](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/aerozol)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/88 "2021-12-19T17:46:21Z")
> [@IvanDobsky](#): > > RealName™ is not Ivan Mind. Blown. Your surname is Dobsky though right?? ---
**Author:** ![IvanDobsky](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/ivandobsky/32/11785_2.png) [@IvanDobsky](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/IvanDobsky)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/89 "2021-12-19T20:32:31Z")
> [@aerozol](#): > > Mind. Blown. Your surname is Dobsky though right?? I never done it - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy4Zqt5Mi-c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy4Zqt5Mi-c) I doubt [Monkey Dust](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Dust) made its way over to your side of the planet… you have missed out on some quality dark dark humour with an excellent sound track. Some of it is on YouTube. Only first series made it to DVD due to having too much music on it. This is why torrents were invented. [warning - anyone easily offended don’t click on that link] ---
**Author:** ![UltimateRiff](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/ultimateriff/32/47799_2.png) [@UltimateRiff](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/UltimateRiff)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/90 "2021-12-26T21:42:01Z")
just wanted to share a fun recording I just added to the DB. I spent far too long finding all the individual musicians before finding they were all linked on the original poster’s TikTok post… 😅 [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/_C1FZ4HtzGY/maxresdefault.jpg "Num Num Cat TikTok Chain but its actually good lol") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C1FZ4HtzGY) [https://musicbrainz.org/recording/6d2b838b-1b17-4143-91b5-4056966ec734](https://musicbrainz.org/recording/6d2b838b-1b17-4143-91b5-4056966ec734) this also made me realize that we probably ought to better support TikTok URLs. ~~would that be a “new feature” ticket?~~ nevermind, there’s already a [ticket](https://tickets.metabrainz.org/projects/STYLE/issues/STYLE-1993?filter=allopenissues) for that. edit: is this a basic [wall of sound](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_of_Sound)? 🤔 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Freso](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/freso/32/25_2.png) [@Freso](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/Freso)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 11:24am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/91 "2022-01-31T11:24:55Z")
30 posts were split to a new topic: [Songs with Place Names in the Title (collection)](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/songs-with-place-names-in-the-title-collection/570361) ---
**Author:** ![aerozol](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/aerozol/32/116_2.png) [@aerozol](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/aerozol)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 12:01pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/121 "2021-12-31T12:01:57Z")
> [@Works with Place Names in the Title (collection)](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/works-with-place-names-in-the-title-collection/570361/29): > > apologies for dragging this conversation of off-topic subject matter off course No apology needed, this thread is for _anything_ at all, including ‘on-topic’ MB stuff, for as long as you want to talk about it. If you or IvanDobksy want your posts moved out then you can ask an admin but you definitely don’t have to 👍 ---
**Author:** ![jesus2099](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/jesus2099/32/36_2.png) [@jesus2099](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/jesus2099)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/122 "2021-12-31T16:14:48Z")
It’s like IRC but easier to follow and catch up. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![aerozol](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/aerozol/32/116_2.png) [@aerozol](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/aerozol)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/123 "2021-12-31T20:11:38Z")
Funny you say that, because I made this thread after me and @IvanDobsky were talking about how everything’s on IRC 😛 ---
**Author:** ![sound.and.vision](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/sound.and.vision/32/35417_2.png) [@sound.and.vision](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/sound.and.vision)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 2:00pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/124 "2022-01-01T14:00:42Z")
I haven’t used IRC in probably close to a decade, and I can’t somehow work out how to get it working properly these days. What client do you guys use? ---
**Author:** ![jesus2099](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/jesus2099/32/36_2.png) [@jesus2099](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/jesus2099)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 1:19am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/125 "2022-01-02T01:19:28Z")
I use the web client that’s linked in the MB _Contact Us_ page. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Freso](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/freso/32/25_2.png) [@Freso](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/Freso)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 11:27am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/126 "2022-01-31T11:27:21Z")
3 posts were split to a new topic: [Jazmin Bean legal name edits](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/jazmin-bean-legal-name-edits/570363) ---
**Author:** ![UltimateRiff](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/ultimateriff/32/47799_2.png) [@UltimateRiff](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/UltimateRiff)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 5:12am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/129 "2022-01-19T05:12:34Z")
kinda on-topic, I guess, but I just added a my first broadcast release [https://musicbrainz.org/release/0509587d-560a-4bc6-8c0c-694c7ad6869b](https://musicbrainz.org/release/0509587d-560a-4bc6-8c0c-694c7ad6869b) it’s the first video aired on MTV, back in 1981. I kinda wonder if I did it right… 😅 along those same lines, I found the first two hours of MTV on YouTube. haven’t watched it very far in (got to the first Who video so far), but it’s very interesting~ [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PJtiPRDIqtI/hqdefault.jpg "The Very First Two Hours Of MTV") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJtiPRDIqtI) ---
**Author:** ![jesus2099](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/jesus2099/32/36_2.png) [@jesus2099](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/jesus2099)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 7:00am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/130 "2022-01-19T07:00:48Z")
Moved here from [How to link to two Discogs pages with annotations? - #5 by jesus2099](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/how-to-link-to-two-discogs-pages-with-annotations/568582/5) I have been reading quite some Discogs bashing recently\*, but MusicBrainz, Wikipedia, etc. all websites are full of errors, it’s normal, by nature. Discogs is really great website to find physical edition details. Even as a convinced MusicBrainz user, I usually love Discogs and its content! ---
**Author:** ![IvanDobsky](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/ivandobsky/32/11785_2.png) [@IvanDobsky](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/IvanDobsky)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 11:48am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432/131 "2022-01-19T11:48:25Z")
> [@jesus2099](#): > > Discogs is really great website to find physical edition details. > Even as a convinced MusicBrainz user, I usually love Discogs and its content! Don’t take my Discogs comments as bashing. I contribute to both sites. They just have very different policies. Both are full of great data and it is the mad chasing of strict guidelines that makes both sites great. I could pick up on MB chasing of mad Grammar and Apostrophe’s if you need me to even things out a bit? 🤣 [Previous page](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432.md?page=4) [Next page](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/the-general-chatter-off-topic-thread/555432.md?page=6)