Should Acoustic/Stripped/Cinematic/etc singles be included in main release group?

[Redpixel09]

I would think no, but I’ve seen several singles that are done like that:

https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/fc15206f-8cec-4df9-b23a-d0f84db3e01b

https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/4977de41-d626-41ea-ae29-b6ebb29843eb?tport=8000

Additionally, should alternate variants of songs (acoustic, cinematic, heavy edit, etc) be considered single + remix? Or no since they’re not remixes of the original songs, they’re seperate recordings from scratch?

[chaban]

The guidelines were changed a while ago that’s why lots of release groups look like that

STYLE-2720

Should different remix singles be merged into one release group?

There’s a debate about whether or not to merge these remix singles into one release group. edit #41866511 As I mentioned on the edit, I believe it’s better for releases like those to be grouped together rather than having a release group for each of them, after all, isn’t that the purpose of a release group?

[Redpixel09]

So should this be a seperate release group, since it doesn’t include the original track?

https://musicbrainz.org/release/28fd1c0a-ab29-49d3-a585-5b4bdb8a45a6

[Comrade_Mike]

I asked at the time and don’t recall it being clarified. The guideline only mentions remixes, it says nothing about live, acoustic or demo singles.

[VBZPPlNQyJ]

Surely a live/acoustic version is more different than a remix? It wouldn’t even capture the same performance.

[ernstlx]

@Redpixel09

So should this be a seperate release group, since it doesn’t include the original track?

I would say yes, it should be separate.

@VBZPPlNQyJ

Surely a live/acoustic version is more different than a remix?

I would treat them the same as remixes. If the original version is also included - same RG, if not separate.

But there will always be edge cases, e.g. remix releases with and without the original version. I would consider what would be a better fit. I would also look at the presentation (same cover art?).