# Releases with a retroactively applied artist name **URL:** \ **Category:** MusicBrainz\ **Tags:** release, digital-media, artist-name, releaseartist, artist\ **Created:** [November 29, 2022, 2:06am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/releases-with-a-retroactively-applied-artist-name/611524 "2022-11-29T02:06:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![namtap](https://community.metabrainz.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/9f8e36/32.png) [@namtap](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/namtap)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 2:06am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/releases-with-a-retroactively-applied-artist-name/611524/1 "2022-11-29T02:06:18Z")
Can’t think of a concise way to word this for the sake of a post title, but anyway, I am talking about the following four releases: - [Fuubutsushi (風物詩)](https://musicbrainz.org/release/59fdacd2-a076-4fba-b5bb-f5ac0fd37fc2) - [Setsubun (節分)](https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/ea98fc93-994d-4147-b9b0-471159df848c) - [Yamawarau (山笑う)](https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/d957aa98-9683-4d7a-bcc6-34d0137a2aa6) - [Natsukashii (懐かしい)](https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/323f1117-9fb0-4ec9-bb34-90c66d947093) As you can see if you click through, the artist name for these releases is some various form of a list of the individual musicians involved, for example “[Jusell](https://musicbrainz.org/artist/40c48c98-52ca-4584-951f-c9c023406455), [Prymek](https://musicbrainz.org/artist/57cb2bd2-3e40-439a-bd6b-70fb146214be), [Sage](https://musicbrainz.org/artist/841fe6de-a7e1-4b17-baca-ec3f6a3bc594), [Shiroishi](https://musicbrainz.org/artist/ec28495f-e425-4333-86e6-d1e032b757df)”. This is, I believe, how they were initially released. However, in the time since releasing these albums they have named their band that of their first album, Fuubutsushi. All of the Bandcamp pages for their respective albums are now attributed to the artist name “Fuubutsushi” ([example](https://cachedmedia.bandcamp.com/album/fuubutsushi)), as is [an anthology release](https://cachedmedia.bandcamp.com/album/shiki) of the four albums. Additionally, liner notes within the physical release has band members referring to themselves by the name Fuubutsushi. So: it’s pretty clear that the artist Fuubutsushi deserves to be added to the database, but is a changing of the artist name in order? Things start getting into a weird grey area when things like this happen with digital releases, because while they were once available before the band name became official, they no longer are. Not sure the right way to go about it all, so I’m looking for some advice! Sorry if I’m wording things badly, I am extremely tired. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![UltimateRiff](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/ultimateriff/32/47799_2.png) [@UltimateRiff](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/UltimateRiff)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 3:10am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/releases-with-a-retroactively-applied-artist-name/611524/2 "2022-11-29T03:10:16Z")
If an artist has changed their name, the artist entity should likely be renamed. however, the original releases should still have the old credits. you can create a new set of releases with the new artist name if they’re marketing the old releases with the new name. just set the release date to when they started using the new name, if that’s known. here’s another similar example, in this case a name change by the label: [https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/cd2d34d5-348d-34dc-aa7c-e75e53ff99bf](https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/cd2d34d5-348d-34dc-aa7c-e75e53ff99bf) * * * this _might_ be a case to use the “withdrawn” release status, like I did above. you might look here for advice and other examples > [@What is "Withdrawn": a discussion thread + examples](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/what-is-withdrawn-a-discussion-thread-examples/579245): > > i thought it would be nice to have a nice and detailed discussion thread about the “withdrawn” release type specifically so as not to clog up the announcement thread. i thought it would also be nice to have a dedicated space for “should this be withdrawn or not” discussions irt specific releases slight_smile a few points i’d like to talk about some releases are more withdrawn than others, right? as an example, a release that was withdrawn due to licensing issues like the [ticket](https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/STYLE-1885) mentioned i… ---
**Author:** ![namtap](https://community.metabrainz.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/9f8e36/32.png) [@namtap](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/namtap)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 4:30am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/releases-with-a-retroactively-applied-artist-name/611524/3 "2022-11-30T04:30:39Z")
> you can create a new set of releases with the new artist name if they’re marketing the old releases with the new name. just set the release date to when they started using the new name, if that’s known. I do not have an exact date for when the change was made, so how would you recommend I approach that? Using the Wayback Machine I can narrow the change down to sometime probably mid-2021 or so, but I’m not sure how I could get any more precise than that. Such is the way of digital releases, very hard to get reliable information on these things when they change. edit: meant to post this as a reply but messed up and couldn’t delete and repost. Whoops. ---
**Author:** ![UltimateRiff](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/ultimateriff/32/47799_2.png) [@UltimateRiff](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/UltimateRiff)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 4:50am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/releases-with-a-retroactively-applied-artist-name/611524/4 "2022-11-30T04:50:36Z")
if it can’t be found, then I’d just set the release date to 2021. however, it might be possible, as Bandcamp embeds the date the page was last modified in the page source. I’ve got a userscript that displays it, and it currently shows a last modified date of October 15th, 2021 for all 4 albums you mentioned. if this lines up with what you found on the Wayback Machine, you can use that date. ![image](https://community.metabrainz.org/uploads/default/original/3X/4/7/472c89fe51ba96b274948f2c6b0240766587e0fe.png) without the script, you can view the page source and search the page for `dateModified`. that should pull it up. * * * if you’re interested, you can find the userscript [here](https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/420662-bandcamp-show-publish-date). it’s quite handy in conjunction with the Wayback Machine, as it also works on archived versions of the page. ---
**Author:** ![namtap](https://community.metabrainz.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/9f8e36/32.png) [@namtap](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/namtap)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 5:08am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/releases-with-a-retroactively-applied-artist-name/611524/5 "2022-11-30T05:08:47Z")
oh thank you, that is super helpful to know!