[proposal] Hooktheory links on recording pages

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I’d like to add links to hooktheory.com on recording pages. Could that please be whitelisted?

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It would be pretty hidden at recording level.
Shouldn’t it rather be at work level?

I’ve just watched their intro video, on your link. I don’t know more.

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Cool site. I agree with jesus2099. Should be on work likely, not recordings.

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I’m sorry to disagree: A version by an other artist could change the chords or melody a lot – the analysis on Hooktheory would be different. As the analysis is based on a YouTube track the link should be on the recording level.

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A version by another artist that changes chords or melodies by “a lot” would require a new work in MB anyway.

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Obviously not:

The cover version of Jacob Collier of “Bridge Over Troubled Water” is one of the most advanced (and one of the most well known in the last time). It changes nearly everything “a lot”. But it’s listed as a recording of the original song (“work”) by Simon & Garfunkel and not as an own work.

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I am not an expert on this song but indeed the arrangements of this cover are different, with lots of “church”-like choir vocals.

But it doesn’t make it a different work, the chords and melody, and the lyrics are apparently the same. They just added over-the-top R&B ornaments to the melody line.

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And you’re not an expert in music theory too, hm? :wink: Have a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHdoTVJgMjM and even in the first 30 seconds you will get such a bunch of additional and altered chords that a Hooktheory sheet of it would look completely different to that of the original …

Hooktheory doesn’t really seem to care about what is a different song or not. Another example:

Original by The Beatles: Here Comes the Sun by The Beatles Chords, Melody, and Music Theory Analysis - Hooktheory
Cover by Jacob Collier (again): Here Comes The Sun by Jacob Collier Chords, Melody, and Music Theory Analysis - Hooktheory
Completely different song with the same title: here comes the sun by bill wurtz Chords, Melody, and Music Theory Analysis - Hooktheory

Obviously the cover version is “allowed” as a separate item in their database (called “song”) because it needs a different musical analysis – which Hooktheory is about.

So in the vocabulary of Hooktheory a cover version is a “song”. In the vocabulary of MusicBrainz a cover version is a “recording”. Result: A Hooktheory item (“song”) should be listed in MusicBrainz on the recordings level.

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