# Notes from #MetaBrainz Meeting 2017-09-25

**URL:** https://community.metabrainz.org/t/notes-from-metabrainz-meeting-2017-09-25/336567
**Category:** MetaBrainz
**Tags:** metabrainz-meeting-notes, spam, musicbrainz-summit
**Created:** [October 14, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/notes-from-metabrainz-meeting-2017-09-25/336567 "2017-10-14T19:40:00Z")
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### Author: ![Freso](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/freso/32/25_2.png) [@Freso](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/Freso)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/notes-from-metabrainz-meeting-2017-09-25/336567/1 "2017-10-14T19:40:00Z")

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# #MetaBrainz Meeting 2017-09-25

Meeting start: [Making sure you're not a bot!](https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4000779/)

## Agenda

- [Reviews](#reviews)
- [Spam situation food‐for‐thought](#spam-situation)
- [Summit prep. last questions](#summit-prep)
- [Next meeting?](#next-meeting)

## Reviews

### @paramsingh

[Making sure you're not a bot!](https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4000784/)

> [@paramsingh](#):
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> is sitting in Delhi airport with nothing much to report. Kinda busy week for me irl.

### @Freso

[Making sure you're not a bot!](https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4000787/)

> [@Freso](#):
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> I spent a bunch of time on reported editors - lots of reported spammers, but also some actual editors.  
> One editor in particular seems to keep popping up with new accounts, deleting their old ones as soon as they’ve been “found out”, and they quickly make 100’s of new edits that need cleaning up every time. ☹  
> I’ve poked zas and bitmap and ruaok and yvanzo about it, to try and see if there’s something we can do apart from just whacking the mole every time they pop up with a new account.  
> I have 3 or 4 reports about them. As soon as one account is disabled, it’s usually deleted in less than 24 hours after.  
> And they change up the e-mail (more or less slightly) every time.  
> Quite annoying.  
> Apart from that, I came home to BCN this week and have spent time on forums and IRC too. I also seem to have gotten ill leading up to the weekend. Feeling better today, so hopefully I will be okay for the summit.

### @yvanzo

[Making sure you're not a bot!](https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4000807/)

> [@yvanzo](#):
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> I worked on coding new reports for admin (limited users, and so on)  
> I reviewed more bitmap’s PRs and started to work on JS updates as well  
> I continued my work on extended attributes.  
> Trimmed some issues using Sentry.  
> _(Addendum: «I forgot to report we encountered a blocking bug in MB with new relationship attributes added by reosarevok, this has been hotfixed by bitmap.»)_

### @samj1912

[Making sure you're not a bot!](https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4000818/)

> [@samj1912](#):
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> Just did my security check in  
> On the flight to ams  
> Nothing much to report this week. Busy with exams and travel packing

### @zas

[Making sure you're not a bot!](https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4000824/)

> [@zas](#):
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> Hey, I’ll be traveling during today’s meeting  
> This week i managed various server issues  
> Boingo failed on Thursday, after usual attempts to reboot, i contacted hetzner, it was a CPU fan failure, now fixed.  
> On Sunday, [community.metabrainz.org](http://community.metabrainz.org) failed badly because of https cert expiration, fixing it wasn’t easy, but i finally sorted it out. The certificate wasn’t renewed as expected, I spent a bit of time to find why. It was related to HTTPS only and a badly designed stock template. I still have to add an alert in nagios for this.  
> I upgraded grafana to latest version and fixed few graphs after it.  
> I proceeded to security upgrades on all servers.  
> Plus Picard prs review, MB edits, usual supervision.

### @Rob

[Making sure you're not a bot!](https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4000835/)

> [@Rob](#):
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> mostly summit prep: cleaning, setting up carpets, mounting the blackboard, pillows and other random things.  
> I also worked up my presentation for my talk on thursday, which lucky for all attendees, is in London.  
> not so lucky for me, but oh well.  
> some business emails, some contract stuff. just heads down trying to keep shit together, mostly.

### @Quesito

[Making sure you're not a bot!](https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4000852/)

> [@Quesito](#):
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> I am in roller coaster negotiations with a one business, and two other entities that are ready to upgrade their status of support with us!  
> Which is really great news–and always nice when folks are easy going and excited to support us! So this quarter’s end (this week) I have quite a few additions for accounting!!!  
> I also may have another development project asked of us, however this may or may not be a ‘thing’ yet…it’s marinating as I await more info from the possible supporter–as it could also turn out to be nothing.  
> Last week I was also able to get my work contract extended for one more month with metabrainz.  
> Other than typical biz work, I made a list of menu items for the BBQ!  
> Anyways…even though I have been told multiple times there is to be no organization to this summit!!! I just couldn’t help myself with the BBQ list-at least no gantt charts are involved! 😜 we can discuss the bbq later…  
> I got to play the baschet instruments this weekend–which was quite fun!!! And I’m really excited to meet you all and experience my first MeB summit!

### @reosarevok

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> [@reosarevok](#):
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> I did support  
> I also closed a fair amount of style topics  
> Including finally adding attributes for the part of rel in works  
> (and breaking the site again)  
> And deciding on a name for the “op.” catalogues for composers  
> I also reported a ton of spammers that were originally reported on a forum post  
> So that Freso could remove them all

### @LordSputnik

[Making sure you're not a bot!](https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4000915/)

> [@LordSputnik](#):
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> Ok, so this week I finished our new entity editor, which means it should be live for testing during the summit  
> It’s much nicer to use than the old one - faster, simpler  
> Next up is writing a new relationship editor, and also modify the relationship system so that relationships can only be set for specific types  
> I hope to get that done by November  
> Then I plan to take a two month break (roughly) until the start of GCI

### @Leo_Verto

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> [@Leo\_Verto](#):
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> I’m currently working on preparing the survey data for the summit and also trying to understand d3js to do some visualizations  
> so if anyone has any good resources on getting started with it, I’d really appreciate that  
> other than that, preparing for the summit which is mostly being happy that I’m a EU citizen, won’t need a Visa and that my phone contract is going to work in Spain 😛

## Spam situation food‐for‐thought

[Making sure you're not a bot!](https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4000936/)

> [@Freso](#):
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> Just some updates etc. about what I’ve seen the last few weeks. We will likely talk more about this at the summit, so this is just meant to get thoughts going.  
> Since the spam measures were put in place on account profiles (limiting the ability to link from “homepage” and “bio” fields), spammers have taken to create spam entities.(Spam entities as such are not a new thing, but I don’t think I’ve seen it with this frequency ever.)  
> Mostly Events are created, but I’ve seen a few Labels and Places too.  
> _(@Rob: «how fast was this response from the spammers?»)_  
> No idea. I can look through my edits for the events I’ve deleted and see if I can find out when they started getting created.  
> (Will probably need a lot of digging since you can’t look through edit histories of deleted entities. :/)  
> But they all seem to have been created in the last couple of months.  
> Anyway.  
> Just a heads up. If anyone has ideas for analyses or data gathering, let’s take it after the meeting (or at the summit).

## Summit prep. last questions

[Making sure you're not a bot!](https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4000962/)

@Freso mentions he would like to try and livestream the summit somehow, but asks 1) whether anyone participating in the summit have any strong objections to this, and 2) if anyone has ideas or hints about how to go about it contact him.

@Quesito asks people to put forth their final questions and asks a couple herself, with @Rob answering all.

@Rob also puts forth a number of things he would like to have pre-summit meetings about in smaller groups/teams and suggests people that might be interested to follow along on the wiki.

## Next meeting?

[Making sure you're not a bot!](https://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabrainz/msg/4001066/)

Since the following Monday will still have most [@MetaBrainz](https://community.metabrainz.org/groups/metabrainz) people in Barcelona doing (post-)summit stuff and/or traveling home from Barcelona, @Freso suggests that the next meeting will be cancelled. He also asks whether to cancel the meeting for the following Monday.

It was decided to cancel the meeting on Monday the 2nd of October, but keep the meeting on the 9th of October.