[Solved] Nirvana’s Nevermind album - tagger release

https://musicbrainz.org/edit/71237612

Nirvana’s album Nevermind is 12 tracks. The 12th track is actually two tracks with a large chunk of silence in the middle of it. The above edit was someone uploading a copy of the USA album but track 12 split into two tracks making a 13 track release.

I understand this is against guidelines. What is best way to fix? I have changed it to a pseudo-release and removed the specific details for the USA CD. (Edit #82225439 - MusicBrainz, Edit #82225440 - MusicBrainz, https://musicbrainz.org/edit/82225443)

Should the faked release be totally merged out of sight? Or kept as a pseudo-release release?

I am of the opinion it should be removed as it simply isn’t a real album.

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I agree with you Cyberskull - it is bogus and should disappear. The CD has never been release with 13 tracks from what I can tell. What is puzzling is there is also a 1992 Spanish release listed with 13 tracks - but that shares a discID with a 2000 bootleg. ( https://musicbrainz.org/release/c680f0c4-24ac-4c9d-836c-0674f72e581f ) which is a fairly impossible coincidence.Spanish release confirmed as bootleg and being fixed

Hang on - there is also a dodgy 2011 Dutch release too: https://musicbrainz.org/release/0c9e9d42-80c1-4d7b-bdb6-aeb70d3501c5 Dutch release also now corrected

I am fairly sure the only places where there are CDs with 13 tracks are bootlegs.

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Immediately opinions are split as always :stuck_out_tongue: because I would leave it as a pseudo-release.
If people are splitting that last track and want to tag it like that, I would just let them.

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Agree it should be moved to pseudo-release, with the correct disambiguation about the hidden track split

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My queued edits would do this. I left the year in place as 1991, but removed everything that connects it to a specific CD.

I was a bit worried that this is just plain fake. Only added for one person who has split the track in their own edit. There are already bootlegs and Digital Media editions of 13 tracks if someone needs to tag.

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That changes it, I would just exercise some personal judgement in that case :+1:

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Where is the flamethrower emoji? :fire: :fire: I personally think it needs merging into a bootleg, along with the dodgy Dutch CD. Gonna do a bit more digging first… see if I can find any example of 13 tracks on a CD

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If anyone knows where I find this in the guidelines it would be helpful as I now have an unhappy editor: https://musicbrainz.org/edit/71237612
Conversation here: Edit #82225439 - MusicBrainz

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Use the digital release. I think they have it separated, but if the CD has never been released with 13 tracks, it should be removed, IMO.

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Solved in the simplest way as suggested by the original uploader - have now reverted to a 12 track release with the original 20:35 track 12. No pseudos \ fakes \ bootlegs needed.

It does bring up points about needing to get them tickets sorted about splitting hidden tracks, or maybe adding a type “Tagger’s Edit”.

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