Event type for musicals/opera/ballet (STYLE-577)

I’m with you: what do we want to achive with the event „type“? Its purpose in life is currently a bit ill-defined.

For example, with it we could tell a „normal“ enactment of an opera from one in a concert setting (i.e. just singing, no acting).

The term “run” (an Event type we currently have) is often used (at least in the States) to refer to a series of performances of a play/musical in a particular location. I don’t know if the term is also used for opera or ballet, but it seems to make sense that it would be.

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“Run” was also intended for a series of performances of operas and ballets when added at least, yeah :slight_smile: But that doesn’t solve the issue of what to call each specific performance.

Ah, I see. “Stage performance” seems to be the term I would most likely use. (For some reason “production” comes to mind as well, but I don’t know if that specifically means an individual performance or an entire run of them.)

Arguably, they’re still closer to each other conceptually than to a “festival”, “convention” or “masterclass” (for types we already have), or “rehearsal”, “music camp”, “radio show” (for examples of what’s been requested).

“Stage performance” as a parent of “concert” sounds like it could possibly work? (a la “all concerts are stage performances but not all stage performances are concerts”). Sure, some concerts are not on a physical stage, but still. I’m not fully sure if that’s still different enough from the other types, but I think it might be.

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How about simply “live performance”?

“Live performance” is ambiguous, it includes in fact every concert. “Stage performance” seems more appropriate, since Opera/ballet/musical performances generally are “staged” – have a “stage director” in the cast, which simple concerts usually don’t.

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“Live performance” is ambiguous, it includes in fact every concert.

That was the plan, I believe. :slight_smile:

I don’t like it very much if we loose the most natural word because of opera.
If it does not suit opera then we need another new word for opera but we keep concert.
Live performance sounds clumsy for concerts, IMO.
Like it means dancing :dancer: with lip sync or art performance like painting or stuff.

Not if I read the initial posts on this topic… The plan was (among others) to be able to distinguish a concert performance of an opera from a “staged performance” of the same opera

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Not the initial post, no, but discussions have a habit to evolve. :slight_smile:

Yes, sorry for the last misleading citation, I proposed “live performance” for the top-level category that would include both concerts and operas, see the above post of reosarevok. @jesus2099 It is a really common term (« spectacle vivant » in French) that indeed includes most of art performances, but that’s the idea. “Concert” would be a subtype of it, alike “Opera”, “Theatre”…

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I’ve attached a poll with the discussed options to the first post. Please do give your opinions! :slight_smile:

I’m missing the option “rename concert to live performance” (aka “one type is enough, but the term ‘concert’ may be too narrow”).

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Gah. That’s a good point, but it won’t let me edit the poll.

I don’t like “live performance”. :confused: A festival might not be a single performance, but is it not live? A launch event is usually done live, I believe. I would hope that a masterclass would be performed live at least.

Maybe two distinct polls (wording & hierarchy) were needed?

It is live, but not a single performance :slight_smile:

Most of the time it is on a stage as well.

Teaching can be challenging, but it doesn’t qualify as a live performance/show, most of the time.