I only really visit MusicBrainz and this forum so finding the IRC channels is a bit hit and miss. Trouble is I am trying to visit here to relax around my music hobby and get away from the computers.
Thanks @Freso for the links. Have read those chunks now.
When the @FresoBot has been updated, I would think it would be useful if you can have a ātargeted modeā. Something that allows a whole Artist - either Band or Single person - to be targeted for ācorrectionā. This would then allow a swap from āMembranononophoneā to āDrum Set (drums)ā for Rock bands.
And if a bulk rename happens, the same bot can help undo those bands who have accidentally become āDrum Set (drums)ā instead of ādrumā.
Maybe have a thread dedicated to āInstrument Correctionsā. Then an artist or band that is spotted as being heavily wrong can be corrected quicker. This would also cover the issue @hiccup mentioned above where āguitar familyā has slid into an artist.
When looking at Nirvana saw lots of worryingly loose ābassā entries too. This would be again handy if we can say "For the Band āNirvanaā change all entries of āBassā to āBass Guitarā. (I did see previous discussions on this topic too)
Human eyes will always be superior to a bot. So Human Checks are needed. Humans requesting the corrections seem important to me. The human should always have the last say.
I should probably point out that wherever āmembranophoneā is listed using the āprogrammingā relationship, the bot should probably replace those with ādrum machineā rather than ādrums (drum set)ā.
BTW could you add āguitar familyā/āguitarā as options as well? There are a more manageable number of those - though also, I would guess, even better targets for a bot-based cleanup.
If I get bored at the weekend Iāll have a look at that and see if I can learn how to run it. It will help my OCD on the bands I deal with. Even if there is eventually a bulk change to the database it would probably still be good to get as many corrected drum set (drums) in place as possible.
The accompanying ticket for this is https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/OTHER-329
we are waiting for this to be coded/worked on, after which things should be much in order.
afaik @freso is also waiting for something - Iāll let him explain that part.
We also want to conduct a poll to see which thing you all think is the best replacement; should blank credits be moved to ādrumsā or ādrumsetā. This poll will be made Soonā¢, right now everyoneās a bit busy with preparations for GCI, BookBrainz, and general stuff esp @reosarevok (as explained in the blog) and @freso (whoās the Lead Admin for GCI)
Sorry to dig out a two year old threadā¦ but what happened to the plans to fix the Membranophone confuddlements in the MB database?
When I see membranophones in the artists I am working with I try and fix them as often as possible. But this is a slow old process by hand. Especially as I have just stepped into tagging some of my Pink Floyd albumsā¦ far too many membranophones to fix in there!
Maybe there is a script someone has made that can be pointed at a Relationships page and do all the clicking for me? It would be good if I could point a tool at a per Release or per Artist basis and make the adjustments.
Generally with a single release it is easy to know which type of drums it will be. And mostly with the artist too.
It seems sensible to me to arm some of us who care with āCorrection Toolkitsā to help push this forward?
I volunteered to use FresoBot for this, however @FresoBot is currently out of commission due to a local PostgreSQL update to version 11, which I wasnāt able to cleanly port the MusicBrainz database up to, so I need to find some time to reāimport the MB db so it is usable againā¦ And then I need to write the actual code for doing the updating (unless someone beats me to it ).
Iām a bit wary to start coding the bot to do this without knowing exactly what itās supposed to do, which is something @CatQuest was going to make a poll aboutā¦ Once I had started on the coding. So that part is currently in a bit of a catchā22.
Thanks for the update @Freso I understand that old āfinding the timeā hassle - Problems always seem to expand to fit the time available.
I do totally understand the issue with unleashing the bot on the WHOLE databaseā¦ that is certainly not trivial.
To be honestā¦ part of this post was also seeing if any of the scripting experts were interested in a ātargeted correction toolā which can be used at Release level to correct small sets of Recordings.
When I am looking at a Relationships page for a release I will often manually correct the ones I see. That can take a lot of clicking once it gets to a double or more album. Or worse when looking at the 16 disc Discovery set for Pink Floydā¦ just too many discs to contemplate doing by hand.
So, after something like year gone by now, it looks like the ideas of fixing this āmembranophoneā mishap by means of bots or forum polls were not realistic.
Iām no database expert, but wouldnāt (shouldnāt) it be possible to just find all existing āmembranophoneā entries that currently exist in the database, and simply revert them to the state they were in before they were changed to membranophone?
I expect because the right name for the instrument should be ādrum setā (ādrumsā is just how people usually call it) so thatās the most reasonable compromise without either removing the real name from the instrument name (wrong) or removing ādrumsā from it (confusing).