# Donation / patronage relationship (STYLE-327) **URL:** \ **Category:** Style\ **Tags:** officialstyle, style\ **Created:** [July 4, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/donation-patronage-relationship-style-327/87787 "2016-07-04T18:39:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![reosarevok](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/reosarevok/32/69228_2.png) [@reosarevok](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/reosarevok)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/donation-patronage-relationship-style-327/87787/1 "2016-07-04T18:39:14Z")
[STYLE-327](http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-327) requests allowing linking artists (and I imagine at least labels would be a reasonable choice too?) to their pages on Patreon, Flattr and the like. This sounds useful to me, but it’s not a service I’ve used in the past so asking for opinions: - Is there a reason _not_ to add this? - If we add it, to what entities? Artist and label sound like a reasonable start but are there other relevant entities? Places? Festivals (series)? Events? ---
**Author:** ![reosarevok](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/reosarevok/32/69228_2.png) [@reosarevok](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/reosarevok)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/donation-patronage-relationship-style-327/87787/2 "2016-07-04T18:41:22Z")
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**Author:** ![Zastai](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/zastai/32/2713_2.png) [@Zastai](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/Zastai)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 10:41pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/donation-patronage-relationship-style-327/87787/3 "2016-07-04T22:41:00Z")
Not opposed to such links. Wouldn’t even mind them being given extra attention on the page (larger icon, noticeable “support this artist/label/…” heading). Artists and labels, sure. Events and places, maybe. Series, not so sure (could just have the link on the entry for whatever is the next, upcoming, event). ---
**Author:** ![Freso](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/freso/32/25_2.png) [@Freso](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/Freso)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 6:38am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/donation-patronage-relationship-style-327/87787/5 "2016-07-05T06:38:33Z")
One reason not to do this (and esp. to not highlight them in any particular fashion) is that people could add fake/phishing donation/patronage links. There are currently limited to no monetary incentives for falsifying MB data. This relationship would add some. Note that this doesn’t mean I’m against the relationship, just that it’s something to be wary of. ---
**Author:** ![CyberSkull](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/cyberskull/32/79_2.png) [@CyberSkull](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/CyberSkull)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 7:41am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/donation-patronage-relationship-style-327/87787/6 "2016-07-05T07:41:56Z")
As the submitter, I can see patronage links being added to artists, labels, events & series. Podcasts too, if we ever get a podcast entity. Examples: Relationships page - [OverClocked ReMix](http://musicbrainz.org/artist/c2187805-d519-4d06-bfdd-5f308d960790) has a patronage page at [https://www.patreon.com/ocremix](https://www.patreon.com/ocremix) - [https://www.patreon.com/ocremix](https://www.patreon.com/ocremix) is the patronage page for [OverClocked ReMix](http://musicbrainz.org/artist/c2187805-d519-4d06-bfdd-5f308d960790) Sidebar: [https://tickets.musicbrainz.org/secure/attachment/11042/Patreon.png](https://tickets.musicbrainz.org/secure/attachment/11042/Patreon.png) [ocremix](http://www.patreon.com/ocremix) URL editor: ![](https://community.metabrainz.org/uploads/default/original/2X/4/4ebf87da63c67f5bd4963d6cee4ee6ec2c889811.png) patronage [https://www.patreon.com/ocremix](https://www.patreon.com/ocremix) > [@Freso](#): > > One reason not to do this (and esp. to not highlight them in any particular fashion) is that people could add fake/phishing donation/patronage links. There are currently limited to no monetary incentives for falsifying MB data. This relationship would add some. > > Note that this doesn’t mean I’m against the relationship, just that it’s something to be wary of. At this point in time, I wouldn’t object to having patronage URLs be subject to the 7-day moderation like links used to be. **Edit** : Normalized Patreon URLs to https. ---
**Author:** ![rob](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/rob/32/29_2.png) [@rob](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/rob)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 10:32am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/donation-patronage-relationship-style-327/87787/7 "2016-07-12T10:32:02Z")
No objections to adding the links, but I see no real reason to highlight the links. ---
**Author:** ![reosarevok](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/reosarevok/32/69228_2.png) [@reosarevok](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/reosarevok)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 12:30pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/donation-patronage-relationship-style-327/87787/8 "2016-07-16T12:30:23Z")
Does that mean “do not show them on the sidebar”, or just “do not show them more prominently than other links”? ---
**Author:** ![rob](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/rob/32/29_2.png) [@rob](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/rob)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 9:36am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/donation-patronage-relationship-style-327/87787/9 "2016-07-18T09:36:34Z")
> [@reosarevok](#): > > do not show them more prominently than other links do not show them more prominently than other links. ---
**Author:** ![CyberSkull](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/cyberskull/32/79_2.png) [@CyberSkull](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/CyberSkull)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 12:04pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/donation-patronage-relationship-style-327/87787/10 "2016-07-28T12:04:04Z")
PayPal now has such a feature now with [paypal.me](https://www.paypal.me/), so that too should be added. ---
**Author:** ![reosarevok](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/reosarevok/32/69228_2.png) [@reosarevok](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/reosarevok)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/donation-patronage-relationship-style-327/87787/11 "2016-08-01T20:50:54Z")
The relationship is in now. I’ve added [a ticket](http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-9038) for adding autoselect to it, which I’ll probably get to eventually if nobody does it before me (please, someone do it before me? 😩). ---
**Author:** ![CyberSkull](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/cyberskull/32/79_2.png) [@CyberSkull](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/CyberSkull)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/donation-patronage-relationship-style-327/87787/13 "2016-08-12T13:17:10Z")
I forgot to mention [Enty](https://enty.jp/), that should be added too. ---
**Author:** ![yvanzo](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/yvanzo/32/2864_2.png) [@yvanzo](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/yvanzo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 10:31am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/donation-patronage-relationship-style-327/87787/14 "2016-08-16T10:31:52Z")
I added issue [MBS-9052](http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-9052) for later on. For now, it is already possible to add Enty links manually. ---
**Author:** ![yvanzo](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/yvanzo/32/2864_2.png) [@yvanzo](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/yvanzo)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 8:44am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/donation-patronage-relationship-style-327/87787/15 "2016-09-06T08:44:35Z")
Non-stop signup requests stop me browsing Enty to collect URLs for cleanup. ---
**Author:** ![jesus2099](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/jesus2099/32/36_2.png) [@jesus2099](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/jesus2099)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 10:44pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/donation-patronage-relationship-style-327/87787/16 "2018-07-18T22:44:03Z")
I had to [link a site named tpiee](https://musicbrainz.org/edit/54599870). The difference between [Patronage](https://musicbrainz.org/relationship/e3d9c283-0146-4d91-9471-1b491a9c17ef) from this topic and [Crowdfunding](https://musicbrainz.org/relationship/16f681e4-93c9-4888-ae5e-3163f01269ab) from [that other topic](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/crowdfunding-relationship-style-546/87785) is difficult for me it’s a site to collect money by fans in any cases so I cannot determine if tipee is one or the other relationships. 🤔 **Shouldn’t we just merge both those relationships to free them from ambiguity?**