I nailed down @reosarevok to discuss some specific questions, this is his early feedback. I’m going to remind him to look at the whole thing again at some point, but this is where it’s heading if anyone has any thoughts in the meantime:
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Should recorded in front of a live studio audience and then edited/cut up be ‘live’
Reo thought that it makes sense for these to be live, but after discussion with Aerozol agreed that it might not be that useful in a broadcast context (where studio audience is a bit different to musical contexts)
“If nobody who actually often edits broadcasts sees a point to having live for laugh-track audiences, then we should change that for sure”
He mentioned that we can transclude this part separately/after if needed. -
Having spoken word, audiobook, and interview secondary types
Reo thought we should have these were appropriate.
I will certainly take out the line saying to usually not do this, and may indeed replace it with a line saying to use them where appropriate (Reo said to specify some examples for ‘spoken word’ and ‘interview’ types, but I’m concerned about this being hard to pin down/that giving examples will cause people to take the examples too literally, I will see if I can find a good way to write it)
Aerozol tried to argue that there’s no case where we would use ‘audiobook’, but nobody was convinced : ) -
Added ‘[, Series 1234, ]’ to the naming format
“seems sensible” -
[broadcast type] Includes reissues or collections of recordings originally created for broadcast, for instance a complete series released on CD.
“seems sensible” -
‘Groupings’ (e.g. series or seasons as release groups)
Reo had extreme reservations, that we are giving two different ways to enter the same thing. That it would be better to pick one, or encourage people to replace the grouped option with individual releases when they have time.
Aerozol stuck to his guns and I think brought Reo round? Points were: Editors already do this. Websites/pages often do have series or seasons on the same page which can be interpreted as a release - and in those cases they were often still broadcast and could have been ripped/taped by someone (requiring their own release). These guidelines don’t clash with the individual broadcast recordings ones. It will bring some order without breaking all the existing grouped releases/what editors already do.
However reo is going to check the guideline over to make sure everything looks okay. -
Also Reo reminded me (again) not to use the official wiki to draft things