# Blink-182 name changed - causing autorename chaos that needs fixing!

**URL:** https://community.metabrainz.org/t/blink-182-name-changed-causing-autorename-chaos-that-needs-fixing/367487
**Category:** MusicBrainz
**Created:** [March 17, 2018, 11:10am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/blink-182-name-changed-causing-autorename-chaos-that-needs-fixing/367487 "2018-03-17T11:10:18Z")
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### Author: ![IvanDobsky](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/ivandobsky/32/11785_2.png) [@IvanDobsky](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/IvanDobsky)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2018, 11:10am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/blink-182-name-changed-causing-autorename-chaos-that-needs-fixing/367487/1 "2018-03-17T11:10:18Z")

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Can we get help from a Mod or someone that can stop an automatic renaming that seems to have kicked off.

Someone has accidentally renamed blink-182 to Blink-182. And the database has applied this change without question.  
[https://musicbrainz.org/edit/51543850](https://musicbrainz.org/edit/51543850)

And now the “modbot” is on the rampage changing ALL the blink-182 references.

Help - how do we stop this chaos? Please tell me I don’t have to downvote EVERY thing the modbot has just marked for change?

Some of modbots open edits:

> **[Open Edits for blink‐182 - MusicBrainz](https://musicbrainz.org/artist/0743b15a-3c32-48c8-ad58-cb325350befa/open_edits)**
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> Type: Group, Founded: 1992-08-01 in Poway, Area: United States

And on a slightly secondary point - why can’t changes like this be blocked? Surely once a band is named then there should be no need for the database to allow it to be changed?

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### Author: ![reosarevok](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/reosarevok/32/69228_2.png) [@reosarevok](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/reosarevok)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2018, 11:24am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/blink-182-name-changed-causing-autorename-chaos-that-needs-fixing/367487/2 "2018-03-17T11:24:52Z")

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> [@IvanDobsky](#):
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> Someone has accidentally renamed blink-182 to Blink-182. And the database has applied this change without question.

That’s because it’s just a capitalization change, so it’s trivial to revert - those are always autoedits.

> [@IvanDobsky](#):
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> Please tell me I don’t have to downvote EVERY thing the modbot has just marked for change?

Afraid you do ☹ (or well, someone). Those are not trivial to revert, so they’re not automatically applied, but they still need to be voted down. They’re also not entered by default - this user specifically checked a checkbox to change each of those…

> [@IvanDobsky](#):
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> Surely once a band is named then there should be no need for the database to allow it to be changed?

We change band names all the time. Sometimes because they actually change the name, sometimes because there’s a typo, sometimes because someone entered “Whatever Orchestra” but their official name is “Orchestre de Quelque Chose” in French, etc.

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### Author: ![IvanDobsky](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/ivandobsky/32/11785_2.png) [@IvanDobsky](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/IvanDobsky)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2018, 11:32am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/blink-182-name-changed-causing-autorename-chaos-that-needs-fixing/367487/3 "2018-03-17T11:32:01Z")

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IMHO this is a bit odd. One person can make a simple mistake when in his beginner weeks trying to understand a complex interface - and chaos can be allowed to kick off? Very odd. I’ll try and tick untangle what I can see but I am also a noob.

If a band name has been set for years, should’t there be a level of protection on it so an auto-edit is not applied so quick? I understand renaming an orchestra, but how often does an artist actually need renaming?

This has been a funny site for me… I seem to keep getting tangled up in correcting mistakes on artists I don’t even like. 😃

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### Author: ![Alfg](https://community.metabrainz.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Alfg](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/Alfg)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/blink-182-name-changed-causing-autorename-chaos-that-needs-fixing/367487/4 "2018-03-17T16:38:45Z")

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about how the name is written, you can argue

> **[Blink-182](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blink-182)**
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> Blink-182 (often stylized as blink-182; pronounced "blink one eighty two") is an American rock band formed in Poway, California in 1992. Since 2015, the lineup of the band has consisted of bassist and vocalist Mark Hoppus, drummer Travis Barker, and guitarist and vocalist Matt Skiba. Founded by guitarist and vocalist Tom DeLonge, Hoppus and drummer Scott Raynor, the band emerged from the Southern California punk scene of the early 1990s and first gained notoriety for high-energy live shows and ir...

  
or  

> **[Blink-182](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blink-182)**
>
> Blink-182 (Aussprache: „blink one eighty-two“; Eigenschreibweise blink-182) ist eine US-amerikanische Punk-Rock-Band aus San Diego, die 1992 von Mark Hoppus, Tom DeLonge und Scott Raynor unter dem Namen Blink gegründet wurde. Nachdem 1998 Travis Barker Raynor ablöste, wurde DeLonge im Jahre 2015 vom Sänger und Gitarristen Matt Skiba ersetzt.
> Der internationale Durchbruch gelang 1999 mit dem fünffach Platin ausgezeichneten Album Enema of the State, der Singleauskopplung All the Small Things und n...

  
or  

> **[BLINK-182 NEW ALBUM + ON TOUR](https://www.blink182.com/)**
>
> California (Deluxe) is out now! We can't wait to meet you on tour. Check for tickets in your city.

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### Author: ![IvanDobsky](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/ivandobsky/32/11785_2.png) [@IvanDobsky](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/IvanDobsky)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/blink-182-name-changed-causing-autorename-chaos-that-needs-fixing/367487/5 "2018-03-17T19:32:10Z")

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I will argue then 😉 (In a friendly way)

The band blink-182 want the band name in lower case. Please look at the annotation in the main blink-182 entry here at Musicbrainz:

> **[blink‐182](https://musicbrainz.org/artist/0743b15a-3c32-48c8-ad58-cb325350befa)**
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> Group, United States, 1992-08-01

The annotation says:  
"_Please do not change the capitalisation of this name!_

It is spelled “blink-182”, as opposed to “Blink 182”, “Blink-182”, or “blink 182”. It appears that way on most releases and on their official website.

The only exceptions are ‘Buddha’ and ‘Dude Ranch’, where it appears as BLINK 182: [http://www.blink182.com/discography/?Page=all](http://www.blink182.com/discography/?Page=all) (scroll down)"

Using the examples you have posted, notice how the official band website’s title is in lower case on your post. Though all through that site they have then used capitals everywhere making the lower case harder to spot.

Wikipedia is always a bit whacky - but they also point out the “artist intent” of lower case (often stylised as blink-182)

Look at all the covers - lower case.

Look at band sites - lower case.

Don’t know why I am defending a band I am not a big fan of, but as they are in my collection I have been down the rabbit hole before checking why their name is blink-182 in lower case.

I think the main thing we should be going by here is what is here on Musicbrainz in that annotation.

Anyway - that’s my 2pence worth.

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### Author: ![IvanDobsky](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/ivandobsky/32/11785_2.png) [@IvanDobsky](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/IvanDobsky)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/blink-182-name-changed-causing-autorename-chaos-that-needs-fixing/367487/6 "2018-03-17T19:40:47Z")

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Here is best list I think to refer to - the External Links on the main blink-182 page:

> **[blink‐182](https://musicbrainz.org/artist/0743b15a-3c32-48c8-ad58-cb325350befa)**
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> Group, United States, 1992-08-01

Look on the right at the External Links. Work through a few of them looking for the pattern. Especially focus on the Official Band sources like Twitter, Facebook, Intsagram, Soundcloud, Youtube and those Social Networking sites that the band have a presence on that they control.

When we aren’t dealing with a stylised font in all caps, they clearly use a little “b” in their user name.

Sites like Whakipedia and Discogs have other editiors who will come along and apply their own rules outside of the band’s control.

I am now taking off my Detective Hat and going back to that bottle of wine 🍷 (am now concerned that there isn’t an emoticon for a normal bottle of wine… it is fizzy pop or old greek jars… 🏺 )

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### Author: ![justcheckingitout](https://community.metabrainz.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/8baadc/32.png) [@justcheckingitout](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/justcheckingitout)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2018, 8:25pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/blink-182-name-changed-causing-autorename-chaos-that-needs-fixing/367487/7 "2018-03-17T20:25:25Z")

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Wikipedia has a MOS that applies only to Wikipedia. Wikipedia capitalizes the first word of every article. It also capitalizes the first letter of accounts names.

if you were to create an article called **The blink-182** …

Unfortunately, because WP has become the “goto” source for internet information, their style guide often changes the way the rest of the internet sees items.

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### Author: ![Alfg](https://community.metabrainz.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Alfg](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/Alfg)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/blink-182-name-changed-causing-autorename-chaos-that-needs-fixing/367487/8 "2018-03-17T20:30:16Z")

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O.K, O.K.  
I don’t know if the band sees it that closely. See the top and bottom line on the home page.

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### Author: ![justcheckingitout](https://community.metabrainz.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/8baadc/32.png) [@justcheckingitout](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/justcheckingitout)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/blink-182-name-changed-causing-autorename-chaos-that-needs-fixing/367487/9 "2018-03-17T20:38:36Z")

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BLINK - all caps  
but all of their social media (except Reddit), which is found at the top of that same page, is lowercase.
