# About the whole Wikidata / Wikipedia situation

**URL:** <https://community.metabrainz.org/t/about-the-whole-wikidata-wikipedia-situation/388416>\
**Category:** MusicBrainz\
**Tags:** wikipedia, wikidata\
**Created:** [June 30, 2018, 9:15am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/about-the-whole-wikidata-wikipedia-situation/388416 "2018-06-30T09:15:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![reosarevok](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/reosarevok/32/69228_2.png) [@reosarevok](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/reosarevok)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 10:00am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/about-the-whole-wikidata-wikipedia-situation/388416/61 "2018-11-05T10:00:19Z")

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> [@IvanDobsky](#):
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> And a side question. Any chance someone who understands Wikidata could update the MB help page a bit? Currently there is no explanation there as to how to get from Wikidata to Wikipedia. Or how to find a Wikidata page to add it to MB. Some good little nuggets of explanation in these forum threads that should be added to the help page.

That would make sense. Which page you have in mind right now? 🙂

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**Author:** ![IvanDobsky](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/ivandobsky/32/11785_2.png) [@IvanDobsky](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/IvanDobsky)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 10:32am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/about-the-whole-wikidata-wikipedia-situation/388416/62 "2018-11-05T10:32:16Z")

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> [@reosarevok](#):
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> Which page you have in mind right now?

The page that pops up when I go and search for Wikidata:  
[https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Wikidata](https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Wikidata)

Still a bit basic and needs humanising.

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**Author:** ![reosarevok](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/reosarevok/32/69228_2.png) [@reosarevok](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/reosarevok)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/about-the-whole-wikidata-wikipedia-situation/388416/63 "2018-11-08T13:13:11Z")

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> [@IvanDobsky](#):
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> This would be better. It would also help people get to associate the wiggly line logo with Wikidata.

I submitted a patch for this change - hopefully it will be accepted (although I know the intention is to later on have a larger overhaul of the sidebar links, I feel it’s useful to make this one more clear in the meantime).

> [@IvanDobsky](#):
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> The page that pops up when I go and search for Wikidata:  
> [https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Wikidata](https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Wikidata)
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> Still a bit basic and needs humanising.

If anyone finds some time to improve this (from [the wiki page](https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Wikidata)) I can review this. Otherwise, I’ll try to find time myself in a few days - now quite overworked because of my board membership duties in, ironically, the Estonian Wikimedia chapter.

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**Author:** ![1024mb](https://community.metabrainz.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/1/a88e57/32.png) [@1024mb](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/1024mb)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/about-the-whole-wikidata-wikipedia-situation/388416/64 "2023-01-17T19:19:05Z")

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So should we **replace** Wikipedia links with Wikidata ones or just add it?  
I’m not 100% sure about this and the docs don’t talk much about it either, I’ve seen some entries in the past with Wikidata and Wikipedia URLs, I should have removed the URLs to Wikipedia?

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**Author:** ![aerozol](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/aerozol/32/116_2.png) [@aerozol](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/aerozol)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/about-the-whole-wikidata-wikipedia-situation/388416/65 "2023-01-17T19:46:49Z")

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Yes, you are correct - replace the Wikipedia links.

If you can point out where in the docs you were looking we can make it clearer!

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**Author:** ![1024mb](https://community.metabrainz.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/1/a88e57/32.png) [@1024mb](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/1024mb)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 10:24pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/about-the-whole-wikidata-wikipedia-situation/388416/66 "2023-01-17T22:24:29Z")

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Here it says English Wikipedia links are always allowed: [Style / Relationships / URLs - MusicBrainz](https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Relationships/URLs#Multiple_URLs_for_the_same_relationship_type) then here [Link Wikipedia And MusicBrainz - MusicBrainz](https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Link_Wikipedia_And_MusicBrainz#Linking_from_MusicBrainz_to_Wikipedia) says the preference is to link to Wikidata and the linked blogpost also states that there is no point in having Wikipedia and Wikidata links.

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**Author:** ![jesus2099](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/jesus2099/32/36_2.png) [@jesus2099](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/jesus2099)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 10:27pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/about-the-whole-wikidata-wikipedia-situation/388416/67 "2023-01-17T22:27:17Z")

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But Wikidata links should only be added to matching entity types: work with song, release group with single, etc.

So sometimes only the Wikipedia link(s) will be correct.

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**Author:** ![aerozol](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/aerozol/32/116_2.png) [@aerozol](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/aerozol)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 1:40am UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/about-the-whole-wikidata-wikipedia-situation/388416/68 "2023-01-18T01:40:59Z")

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> [@1024mb](#):
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> Here it says English Wikipedia links are always allowed: [Style / Relationships / URLs - MusicBrainz](https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Relationships/URLs#Multiple_URLs_for_the_same_relationship_type)

I think this is a misunderstanding because of how that paragraph is worded. I have submitted an edit to the wiki page this is transcluded from, [here](https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Style/Relationships/URLs#Multiple_URLs_for_the_same_relationship_type), to make it clearer - could you review for transclusion please @reosarevok?

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**Author:** ![reosarevok](https://community.metabrainz.org/user_avatar/community.metabrainz.org/reosarevok/32/69228_2.png) [@reosarevok](https://community.metabrainz.org/u/reosarevok)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.metabrainz.org/t/about-the-whole-wikidata-wikipedia-situation/388416/69 "2023-01-18T20:39:27Z")

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@aerozol’s interpretation is entirely correct and the new wording more clear. Transcluded.

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